I Hate MLG

Big0ne

Shared on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 09:34

Caution!  You're about to enter the no spin.....errr.....wait, that's a different program.

Caution!  Read the whole blog before you start creating new and inventive curse words to hurl my direction.

Ok. So now that that's out of the way let me repeat.  I hate MLG.  I've never liked the idea that a game developer would come up with a game, set up the standard rules by which they would have their game played and then MLG comes along, tweaks the rules all around and then declares that the MLG version is the best way to play a game. Unfortunately, too many of these guys lives rest on their level 50 and the nuances of the latest version of a battle rifle.  Add to that the incredible egos many of these timmies have and their propensity to create flame wars in any forum in which they populate, and it's a mix that I just can't stand.  STOP TYPING!  I SAID "MANY" NOT "ALL"!  It should be a reminder to everyone that when you put 2o2p or your clan name or MLG in your avatar or sig, you are not only representing yourself but the groups your are a part of. 

I say this with the full disclosure that I am a casual gamer.  I know there's been some very interesting articles written lately about what is or isn't a casual gamer in light of the latest E3 conference.  I consider myself a casual gamer, because I play video games to relax.  If my video game time starts to get consumed by practices and tournaments and level building, then I've created a second job for myself, not a relaxing night of entertainment before I go to bed.  After all we're talking about a video game here.  This is a toy for all intents and purposes.  I don't really care if I ever hit level 50 or 40 for that matter.  It's enjoyable to try and work up a level system to some degree in a game, but if it requires practice and training then I don't have any interest.

Having said all of that, I do understand that there is a certain group of people out there who may in fact find competitive play an enjoyable experience.  They look forward to practices and competitive events.  As long as the ego is kept in check, I don't really have a problem with those guys pursuing their passion.  They should enjoy every minute of the hobby they love.  It's somewhere deep in our DNA that we can turn virtually any human activity into a contest.  I have no real issue with that.  So why bring all this up?

A couple of weeks ago one of the 2old2play resident gamers decided that he would start a tournament for the folks on the site.  Caesar organized the whole thing and even offered prizes out of his own pocket for the winners.  The basic idea, as I understand it, was to appoint team GMs who would draft players from a pool and then be forced to make trades through the season in order to mix up teams.  Seems like a pretty cool idea.  The contest was open to everyone, competitive and casual gamers alike.  Here is where the problem comes in imo.  You see once you introduce a score and/or a prize then no matter how casual you want your event to be, it becomes a competitive undertaking and the competitive nature of people will come out.  If you're a casual gamer, that won't fly too well.  I understand what Caesar is trying to accomplish in theory and I applaud him for putting forth all the time an effort in getting it underway.  However, I think you can have a tournament or a mixer, but you can't have both.  GMs are going to want to try and win and that means trying to keep the best possible team they can together.  If teams are made up of random players who randomly change teams, then it's not really a contest, it's a crap shoot. 

I really hope this works out in the end.  I know there's been some difficulties in ironing out some details so far but I think what Caesar is trying to do is a noble idea.  My suggestion for future events like this though, where you're trying to get both competitive and casual gamers together in the same room, would be to allow the basic structure to stay in tact with whatever tweaks need worked out, but instead of offering prizes to winners, simply go to a door prize system to help stimulate participation.  If there's no prize for first place, then it will take some of the fire out of the bellies of those who are more competitive in nature.  Plus, those less skilled gamers will still want to be a part of it because even if they suck, they still might "win".  When I see that stupid banner on the page that says "Still unsure if you want to attend the 2008 Chicago Lan Party? What about a $1000 FFA Halo Tournament to entice you?"  I keep thinking to myself NO!  I know before every putting the Halo disk in that I'll never be able to compete with some of the guys that will be in Chicago.  Why bother?  We all know who the top 10 or so guys are among those attendees.  Let me tell you, I'm not one of them.  If there were random prizes for participation though, maybe I'd consider it.  Otherwise I'll try to save myself the public ass kicking.  Again, you can have a mixer or a competition, but you can't do both.

Comments

Gatsu's picture
Submitted by Gatsu on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 15:01
I agree with you Big. 100%
th3midnighter's picture
Submitted by th3midnighter on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 15:37
Excellent blog even if I totally disagree with you. What I'd like to know is, what is your definition of casual and comp? I think your definition of comp. and casual is pretty black and white as is most ppls I imagine and I think Caesar intent is to make that line a bit more gray. Honestly, we've had hardcore tourneys in the past, mostly ones I've run and some Ladies has run but this is defin not a hardcore one. I think it gives the opportunity for the members that fall somewhere in the middle who arent completely MLG but not totally needler gamers to play with more comp. members and whats wrong with that? The way I see it, we are mixing two groups that would otherwise not game together. I think this will do much more good than harm. Good read none the less.
Castlemonster's picture
Submitted by Castlemonster on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 09:39
Anybody else see that shit storm brewing right over there -->?
DragoonTamer's picture
Submitted by DragoonTamer on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 09:39
So does that mean you'll sell me your 1st Ed Mint Ogre2 rookie card?
MTK005's picture
Submitted by MTK005 on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 09:46
At least he took the posters down.
MikeTheKnife's picture
Submitted by MikeTheKnife on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 09:56
Excellent blog. The addition of prizes definitely changes the atmosphere of a tournament.
Stryker927's picture
Submitted by Stryker927 on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 09:59
Too late Bro Dee, he already sold it to me for a whole quarter!! That's 5 times what it was worth new. I can't wait until I get my $1.25 out of it 50 years from now! :D Good Blog Big. :)
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Submitted by Automan21k on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 09:59
ok, I love competition, I love prizes, but if I'm competing for prizes...my wife will make me sleep in the other room because I'll be unbearable and will hate everything. I also play games to relax, but I always want to be the best at my games...this makes me frustrated...I'm just a giant Hypocrite Bomb ready to do whatever a hypocrite bomb does...
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Submitted by Bluestar on Fri, 08/01/2008 - 07:57
I agree mostly. I don't really hate mlg, I like the gameplay itself, I just can't stand the competitive nature of the gametype. I'd much prefer screwing around without having to care whether or not the team is working well together. I just want to shoot something. I applaud Caesar's idea and hope it turns out well, but you can never tell when people's competitive spirit will take over and others will have their feelings hurt. Why they would over a videogame I will never know. I gave up long ago playing in tourneys because I simply don't care about whether we win or lose. The last one I did was only because the entire team vowed not to bother working on strategies or doing practice sessions. That's just too much like work to me. That just doesn't sit well with some people when they are playing in a tournament. Now I just don't have the time to commit to these things.
MikeTheKnife's picture
Submitted by MikeTheKnife on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 10:02
I think a hypocrite bomb would blow itself up and then be angry at everyone else.
ATC_1982's picture
Submitted by ATC_1982 on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 10:15
Nice read, but can't there be a medium between both?
Automan21k's picture
Submitted by Automan21k on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 10:15
hmmm. I think I could do that.....hmmm,....errrr.....uggggg....nope, all I did was turn my face red....and I'm a bit dizzy...gonna lay down for a bit.
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Submitted by RagingBull888 on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 10:43
I would just like to wish BigOne luck as he practices for *wink wink* and competes *wink wink* in the Rock Band tournament at the LAN. Of course, rocking out is way much fun unitl you start failing out of songs.
KingBayman's picture
Submitted by KingBayman on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 11:10
But being as they don't have the levels going above Hard, I doubt anyone will fail. Hell, most of the RB thing is on medium. Yawn. Wake me up when the next note comes.
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Submitted by MutusLetum on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 11:14
It's ironic to me that I could have posted a similar headline/blog a couple of months ago, and it would have accurately described my thoughts. But I gave it a chance. I started playing MLG settings to see what all the rave was about. I HATED it at first. It didn't lend itself to my 'campy' playstyle. After realizing that I would need to change how I played, I started to understand the draw of the MLG settings. It forces teamwork and communication--something that the normal H3 settings just doesn't do. For a long time, I would only play MLG settings. Now, I play a decent mix of both. I think the important part is that I gave it a chance, just like I'm doing with this new league. Am I skeptical about the league? Sure, I am. I'd be a fool not to be. But I'm trying to stay positive. This league could use a good dose of positivity rather than the criticisms that are being thrown about. The prizes are absolutely secondary in my mind. The primary goal for me is to enjoy the gaming and enjoy playing with new people from the site. I know that I don't speak for everyone when I say that, but I also know that this 'competition' is not being taken nearly as seriously as previous ones. I think the prizes were more to encourage competition, and if that's the way that more people will come out and play, then I'm all for it. Ceasar is treading a fine line between comp and casual play, and he's doing it well. There have been hiccups, but that's to be expected. I guess all I'm saying is give it a chance, Big. Or at least, let us give it a chance before being critical.
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Submitted by Deman267 on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 11:47
Holy shit.We are in complete agreement.How'd that happen? No"casual"gamer with half a brain would enter Caesar's League.I too,applaud his efforts and his energy,but there's no way it's a site-wide thing,just another way for the Compers to get their fix and increase their available pool of cannon fodder. If he wanted casuals in there,he should have made it a Pro-Am,where a level 40 gets teamed with a level 20.It was a nice thought,and it looks like a hell of a lot of work,but it ain't for the casual or the lower levels.
MikeTheKnife's picture
Submitted by MikeTheKnife on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 12:00
"No"casual"gamer with half a brain would enter Caesar's League." Hey! I resemble that remark. Now where'd I put the other half of my brain?
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Submitted by dkhodz on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 12:21
For you guys who don't know Big0ne very well, this entire blog post was one big joke. He luv3rs teh MLG!!!!1! Go MLG!!!11!

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