I can see Bioshock getting flak when its released

Falelorn

Shared on Mon, 03/05/2007 - 10:48
There is a new developer walk through video out for Bioshock called Hunting the Big Daddy. If you have not seen it, watch the video till the end (the important part for this blog), if you have seen it.. continue on..

Video (remember the end part is the most important



Video Games should and usually do give us some sort of emotional reaction. Either joy, frustration, fear, sadness, etc.. when we play the games we should get some sort of emotional response. Who hasnt given a finger to a boss in a video game? Or yelled "Hell Ya" when you finally beat some major level that almost had you weeping? I am sure we all have.

Bioshock will certainly push us to the next level of emotions in regards to how the player has a chance to exploit the little girls. For those that are not keeping up on Bioshock, the little girls pull out the currency in this underwater utopia from dead bodies, this currency is called ADAM. They then drink it to process the ADAM. ADAM is needed by everyone and everything to work. It is used as money, to hack items/computers, to basically do anything in the game. In a game like Bioshock you are not limited by a linear set of choices so this is where the emotions will come in. You can leave the little girls alone, you can kill them (promotional materials have this listed as "Do you like to murder little girls?"), you can exploit them and keep your ADAM supply up, and even more.

Now the response of the little girl at the end of the video shows us she and the other little girls will be unwilling to help us, especially after we have to kill her protector, the Big Daddy. The girls give a fairly realistic emotion and if you just look at it like a video game character, no real emotional response will be needed from you, or expected by a rational person. But will the political wind bags out there find this video or hear about it in some way and say the game is promoting violence against little girls? Her realistic reactions could be plastered all over CNN for the people who are not in the know to look at and have an emotional response over. What kind of game is this? A game where you scare and MURDER little girls? Our kids dont need this kind of game.. etc etc. You have seen it all before.  You will see it again.

So when Bioshock is finally released at the end of August, and the media hype increases, I will not be shocked to see some lawyer or politician hack use 6 seconds of the video to say video games are evil, and what I say is this.. Havnt you ever just wanted to kill a little girl? :P

Comments

CofC's picture
Submitted by CofC on Mon, 03/05/2007 - 11:06
F, is there anything you would consider off limits in a game?
Falelorn's picture
Submitted by Falelorn on Mon, 03/05/2007 - 11:14
yes, the obvious things like showing child porn/rape, even if its a polygon character that would take it to far. But while I would have to think on it for a while, I can not think of something else that is really taboo or off limits or should be off limits in a game. We have seen murder, rape, etc in games before and if done in side the context of the game I would have no problem with it. But if its just there to be just there, it has no place. But when you get down to it, has a video game shown us something or have had us doing something we have not seen in a movie or on TV? No, TV and Movies have pushed the limits for a long time. -- also in regards to Bioshock -- The game is for ADULTS only (acutally the developers say MATURE ADULTS only), they keep pushing that MATURE aspect. Make MATURE choices.. -- back to our regularly scheduled program --
Lithium's picture
Submitted by Lithium on Mon, 03/05/2007 - 11:20
Its all fantasy, and as REAL people its our everyday job to seperate fantasy from reality. My first reaction when I saw the end of that video was "Wow look at the AI reaction" AI thats all it is, its a video game. Not only that, the little girls look warped and twisted from thier time in Rapture, far enough from 'human' to be safe. Not like this game is called 'Bus stop stalker' or anything. Completly fiction, far enough from real life, and the choice is the players. It sounds as if there are other options if you don't want to kill the spooky girl. But it will be interesting to see if anything political comes out of this. There aren't any laws regarding video game content and there shouldn't be. If I can go to the movie theater and watch 2 solid hours of people being murdered then why can't I, in the privacy of my own home in fact, sit in front of my TV and murder spooky little girls? On a side note: THIS GAME LOOKS AMAZING!!!
Falelorn's picture
Submitted by Falelorn on Mon, 03/05/2007 - 11:29
@Lithium - Aye.. and her reaction was cool.. not scripted either.. AI sure has come a long way.
Lunatik-ZX's picture
Submitted by Lunatik-ZX on Mon, 03/05/2007 - 12:43
it is a question of ethics what would oyu do to win or not ... its a game
Falelorn's picture
Submitted by Falelorn on Mon, 03/05/2007 - 12:48
@Lunatik.. KILL EM ALL!!!! but that is a good point, does our personal real life ethics dictate how we play our video games?
Devonsangel's picture
Submitted by Devonsangel on Mon, 03/05/2007 - 12:56
Sure it does. Think about how some play, do they rush forward in anticipation or disregard to what may lie ahead or do they stay back and wait to see what may happen?
Falelorn's picture
Submitted by Falelorn on Mon, 03/05/2007 - 13:03
@Devonsangel But say for example you have a choice in a game to steal or work for an item. In real life I assume you think stealing is bad.. so in a game would you think the same? its a bad way to put it since really a game is just a game and life is life.. But we could change stealing with adultry, or rape.. would our ethics hold out? makes me a bit squeamish thinking about rape as a choice in a video game... I actually do not think I could have my character do that..
syphaqlies's picture
Submitted by syphaqlies on Mon, 03/05/2007 - 13:13
I think it depends on the person on whether or not they will bring their real-life ethics into a video game. For myself, when I have played games like Fable and Black & White in the past I have always chosen to be the good characters, I never even considered being evil. Now, there were times when I did do something a little evil to accomplish my goals, i.e. theft in Fable or launching a rock over an opposing gods village in Black & White only to have it land on some unsuspecting villager's hut, but it's never my first choice. I wouldn't have even been in the Dark Brother Hood in Oblivion if it wasn't for the achievement points, I feel so dirty after I off an innocent person. Now my friend, whom I know doesn't have a violent bone in his body, got some villager to follow him in Fable and proceeded to beat the crap out of her for ten minutes just to watch his character grow horns. So, like I said, it depends on the gamer. However, when playing Grand Theft Auto, all ethics go out the window because sometimes you just want to have sex with a prostitute to boost your health, then beat the crap out of her to get your money back.
Whamolla's picture
Submitted by Whamolla on Mon, 03/05/2007 - 13:57
I hadn't seen that before, and it looks awesome. That aside, I don't see this as a problem as long as it is marketed to mature gamers, and it is enforced. However, once some ignorant mother buys it for their screaming kid, we can expect a political response when she finally sees what's in it. This is why they took the killing of children out of Fable. However, they certainly aren't doing themselves any favors by marketing it with the tagline about killing little girls.

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