Banned Film Hits The Internet

Go_Aachmed

Shared on Fri, 03/28/2008 - 21:16

This film was made by Dutch politician and critic of Islam, Geert Wilder. It has been banned in the Netherlands for fear of further violence.

 

Here's the wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitna_%28film%29

 

Will love ever win the day or is hate all the we have left? It's like a cancer eating at our souls. May God have mercy on us and the atrocities we serve upon one another. And God bless Geert Wilder and other that risk their lives to speak out.

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Go_Aachmed's picture
Submitted by Go_Aachmed on Sat, 03/29/2008 - 12:37
I'm not mislead at all. Americans and Europeans like to turn a blind eye and hope for the best. The reality is that the so called extremes are the reality. Not all muslims are like this, that is a given. They also do very little to stop this. There are many who do not act but still sympathize. What he is saying to Islam is simple. Don't let the hate consume you. Rip the hate out. Speak out against it before it is too late. Before the extreme becomes the majority. By the way... that day is not too far distant.
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Submitted by Armorsmith76 on Sun, 03/30/2008 - 01:29
I don't think that anyone at all is afraid to speak out and say that extremism is bad. I'm going to watch the video again, but I don't remember seeing him make any plea for moderates to turn away from extremist factions. I only saw lots of scary images of death and destruction and hateful words from guys who were all wearing turbans. This is a sticking point for me because it looks like he is portaying all muslims the same way, and that is just another extreme(ist) viewpoint. I think this movie is inflamatory, that it causes snap judgements rather than any thoughtful discourse (of course we are having one now, but I don't think the majority would) I also understand that there are parts of the world that really hate us and celebrate in the streets when bad things happen. Why do they do that? How did this start? Are we totally innocent, or do they have a reason to hate us? I'm NOT saying terrorist actions are acceptable under any terms. NOT saying that we deserve what we get. I'm saying that this is a problem that needs to be fixed at it's source. The countries that are hotbeds of hatred and discontent for our country. How? as I see it we have 3 options OPTION 1 We could round up all the people, gas them and bury the bodies. Cut the problem out like it was cancer. OPTION 2 We overthrow the goverments of the countries in question, install Democracies, (Machiavelli would disaprove, he believed that drasticaly changing the system of goverment on a nation was always met with resistance untill all the citizens of the old guard died of old age) and then prop the countries up with a steady flow of weapons and American soldiers for the next fifty years. OPTION 3 We could stop playing policeman for the world. Apologize, for being so self serving in our business dealings and help these folks improve their quality of life. Let's be the good guys. Do that and you take the very fire out of many of the fundamentalist arguments. After people stop looking forward to blowing themselves up to get revenge... we start talking to them about how they treat women and those who shame the family. Rome wasn't built in a day. (look at the civil rights movement in the U.S. 50 years and counting, but things are getting better) I think the people who are turning a blind eye are the ones who think this problem can be solved with either of the first 2 options. I agree with you, the day is near that the extreme becomes the majority. The question is, what are we going to do to change that fact, and does this video help us do it?
Go_Aachmed's picture
Submitted by Go_Aachmed on Sun, 03/30/2008 - 08:42
That's the point of the page ripping. It's symbolism being used.
Armorsmith76's picture
Submitted by Armorsmith76 on Sun, 03/30/2008 - 22:34
Or a Koran being defaced. Some Muslims need to change to fix this problem, but we need to change more. Attitude. Policy. Ideals. Business.
jquack's picture
Submitted by jquack on Fri, 03/28/2008 - 21:37
yikes, that was disturbing.....
Hetfield's picture
Submitted by Hetfield on Fri, 03/28/2008 - 22:02
Sorry, But 'God' has nothing to do with it.
Armorsmith76's picture
Submitted by Armorsmith76 on Sat, 03/29/2008 - 00:51
Does he speak out, calling for justice, fairness, peace? Or does he speak out to demonize an entire faith based on the actions of a statisticaly small group of extremists? Christians destroyed Native Americans in the name of god, citing bible passages as justification for destroying those who wouldn't convert. I think Hitler claimed to be christian. Jews and Moslems kill each other in the west bank, Saying that god gave the land to them. (and each backing it up with scriptural passages, I'm sure) My point is, people will always find a way to pervert the religion dejour to serve their own agendas. They simplify the argument down to, "all those not like us are evil and must die." Geert Wilder is doing the same thing, and because of him, some stupid jackass is going to attack some innocent muslim, and then in response some muslim jackass will do the same to whoever he percieves as the enemy. Geert Wilder is just another part of the problem.
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Submitted by Go_Aachmed on Sat, 03/29/2008 - 07:36
Sorry, It's not a small group. It's an enormous group and growing. That's the problem. Not just the terroism but the Killing of family members for leaving the religion or in some way shaming the family. These reports are constant. Hey thanks for the -2 peeps. I promise to find more of these jems just for you!.
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Submitted by Armorsmith76 on Sat, 03/29/2008 - 10:18
I grant that the world is far from perfect, that horrible things do happen, many of them in the name of religion. I think what you are refrencing is more of a cultural problem than a problem with the religion. If these folks were christian (or anything else) they would still hold their extreme views. People are stupid jerks the world over. Geert Wilder's video shows terrorist attacks, mutilated corpses, speech clips from fanatics as well as quotes from the Koran that have been interpeted as justification for xenophobic killing. He isn't speaking out against human rights violations, or calling out for social change. He is painting all muslims with the same label. TERRORIST. Should I suspect my neighbor of being anti American? He is muslim after all. What about that brown guy who rides the bus with me everyday? How should we fix this? How should we treat muslims? How does Geert Wilder think we should deal with them? I suspect his solution is pretty extreme. I just think you're mislead on the point.
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Submitted by JohnnyBoyFloyd on Sat, 03/29/2008 - 11:11
It is not that all Muslims are terrorists. It just so happens that the majority of terrorists are Muslims.

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