Tea Bag Parties

issue 1 you are watching CNN's coverage of the event, I was at the Harrisburg Tea Party, it was very peacful and there was no mention of racism, hate, or any form of biggotry. Just several hundred people who wish to make their feelings known, there were Democrats and Republicans present....about 3,000 people were there of all races.....and the event brought in a ton of donations to the local food bank.

and the speakers had plenty to say about Bush's bailout as well.

Seems to me your a little off in your impression of this, check out the blogs of 2 of your fellow 2o2p'ers blogs. I am not anything you described above and if I didn't have to work would be at one of these protests. http://www.2old2play.com/Blog/TheDastard http://www.2old2play.com/Blog/SoupNazzi

You're right, we need to increase tax pressure on the upper class and on corporations. More companies and investments going overseas means win win for USA! I remember thinking rich people were able to use loopholes to hide all their money and not pay taxes. Then I got into the sixth grade.

hiding money went out with the Crazy Eddie's scandal. there are too many safeguards inplace to hide money, and with Enron the ability for them to overstate expenses fell through, if people are hiding money its individuals and not corporations and they are hiding it in off shore accounts....and if a billionair is hiding money the IRS would know it....people far too often confuse evading taxes with donating money and earning deductables....just like giving to non-profit and writing it off, but they do it in a much larger scale.

Sight some sources. "being paid for by rich corporate assholes" Source? "tax breaks for corporations have NEVER in the history of this country produced a bump in the economy." Source? "My facts show billions of dollars not being paid in taxes by wealthy corporations" Source? Oh...and I'm going to the protest here. Are you claiming (in your broad and highly educated generalizations) that I am in ignorant bigot?

DO ever have an original thought or do just spew shit you read and watch on cnn an msnbc and then pretend to be smarter than everyone else. Seriously reading your blogs is like watching msnbc only less articulate and not as well written.

I would really appreciate some sources for your rants. Just like I tell the clients I work with, prove it. Otherwise, if there is no documentation to back up your claim, it didn't happen!

The think the "report released today" is the report from last December by the GAO... http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-09-157 The GAO says 'GAO did not attempt to determine if corporations or contractors with subsidiaries in such jurisdictions engaged in transactions with their subsidiaries to reduce their tax burden" The $100 billion number seems to come from CBS news, but there is a difference between a report "showing corporations are hiding AT LEAST 100 billion " and the statement that "it's estimated that tax havens cost U.S. taxpayers $100 billion a year in lost revenue." http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/02/23/eveningnews/main4822689.shtml Bottom line...those committing crimes are being investigated and prosecuted http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=7210007&page=1 or they are being utilized legally under US law. I will not debate that the law should be changed...the entire tax cost should change because it is rife with social manipulation and favors for special interests at the expense of the average citizen. But that is congress...favor after favor. But even if we could and did collect the $100 billion/year, look at the chart on Soups blog http://www.2old2play.com/Blog/Permalink/2249/33161 The Obama deficits are still larger than anything in the past 9 years and extend for 10 years (likely more). Show me how that can be paid for.

One thing I think I should mention is that the Harrisburg Rally was about 80% focused on Guv Ed Rendell, he has frozen the wages of the state workers, put up a hiring freeze, then hires two of his campaign contributors paying one $90k a year (to think of ways to promote the state parks...aka spend money) and the other well over $100k a year for a part time job where he will be working for and getting paid another $100k a year by a no-bid contractor working for the statenot to mention the $30 mil "bailout" he gave to a business owner who happend to have given $10mil to Eddies last campaign....btw he sold the company pocketing both the money form the sale and the bailout check.... and don't get me started with his Casinos.

He11...a couple things baffles me...You are hung up on the funding for the ralley's (I spoke to the organizer here...he was a college student who spend his and a few other peoples money and we have 400 people, which is surprising in this town) yet George Soros funding the left wing of the Democratic party (certainly no different) doesn't register. 2) you obviously have a hangup about the war which Obama voted in favor of every time, 3) you call the war illegal yet even the Berkley Law Center (ultra liberal) says the war didn't become "illegal" until January 1, 2009. True, Bush was still president, but it is a very narrow and questionable interpretation of the law. 4) I seriously doubt that the "middle-class" is helped by piling trillions of $$$ of debt on to the country, 5) you seem unaware of or tolerant of the cronyism that helped get us into the current economic crisis (Chris Dodd and his deals with Countrywide, Barney Frank pushing banks to make bad loans, PENALIZING banks that didn't make enough bad loans, and blocking regulations that Bush (yes, Bush) tried to put on the financial system, 6) you blame corporations for using the laws created by their friends in congress (and yes, some of them are democratic friends...this problem has been going on for a very long time) to reduce their taxes rather than hold the lawmakes responsible. Are you blind to see that Congress and Obama are telling you to "look over there" with this populist bullshit so that you focus your anger on someone else and don't look at what they are doing, 7) Obama as Hilter bothers you (I haven't seen that one) and you lament the disrespect for the President...try googling "Bush Hitler" or Bush Monkey" and then explain to me how calling republicans "schizo paranoid", "Bushies", "right wingers", "racist, bigoted, ignorant, uneducated, pieces of shit ", "Bush is a war criminal" (you know this is a lie), "Right Wing Zombies"...you rant on and on. Take this as a fuck you but you actually have a point about corporate taxes, although between the stupid generalizations and kool-aid you instead just reinforce the fact that you are ignorant and intolerant...the exact things you try to dump on the Republicans. And for the record, I'm not a republican. I have never given money to a republican, never registered as a republican, and while I have voted for republicans, I have also voted for democrats, independents, and libertarians. You aren't getting raped by the rich. You are getting raped by Congress. And it is very telling that you ignore my question...how will the country pay for Obama's trillions of dollars of spending? ten years of deficits ranging from 1.75 trillion to a low of about $550 trillion. According the to New York Times the annual cost of the Iraq War is $200 billion and the Federation of American Scientists placed the cost of all Global War on Terror operations (Iraq, Afghanistan, and everything else at $864 billion for the period from FY2001 through FY2009. That is about 1/2 the deficit for Obama's first budget, and it includes NINE YEARS. There is a hell of a lot more in Obama's budget than bullshit economic stimulus and paying for wars he inherited. You really need to educate yourself dude.