You need to Read this..and it ain't mine.

JeepChick

Shared on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 11:32

http://www.2old2play.com/blog-16673-9843.html

Tara has put up a well written blog about some recent forum activity. I think everyone needs to read this and think about how they interact with the community.  Like Tara, this is not directed at any one person, but generally I think a reminder is a good thing....I certainly appreciated it.

To add to that are my questions: 

What is it about the Halo series that incites such behavoir?  I don't see this with other games.  It is one of the main reasons I don't play Halo.  Have you seen this in other games?  Is it a game type or the title that gets this behavoir going?

Comments

madwoman's picture
Submitted by madwoman on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 12:15
Yeah, I don't believe its just Halo Jeep. I tried RSV6 online in some deathmatches (before I found this awesome web site!) and I lasted all of about 5 minutes. COD4 beta, got the same idiot kind of guys on a handful of occasions. Granted I see it more in Halo but I believe it is because the large number of people who play Halo on LIVE. More idiots, if you will, to choose from. I can't say I've actually ran into anyone here who has done the kind of stuff TDrag stated. I'm not saying they aren't there I just haven't encountered anyone.
JeepChick's picture
Submitted by JeepChick on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 12:28
I think you are right mad....more people = more possibilities for this behavoir.
KingBayman's picture
Submitted by KingBayman on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 12:28
I think Halo brings out the most competitive nature of its players in part because of something most of us use as just a bonus. And that's stat tracking on Bungie.net. Yes it's good to see how your doing, but it becaomes more than that to ultra-competitve people. It becomes a d*ck measuring tool. If that's the way youwant to play, and you want to be hardcore, fine. But I generally won't play in your rooms because that's not how I want to play. And Gears has/had the same effect on some people. You've done a d*ck measuring in GoW yourself from reading some of your past blogs. ;-)
SoupNazzi's picture
Submitted by SoupNazzi on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 12:40
I would disagree with that assessment Ekattan. It isn't only the "group of people who take the game far too seriously", it's both sides are the argument. In the button combos thread, BOTH parties (if you want to seperate them like that) showed poor examples of behavior. So, please don't lay blame on those of us who like to play competitively. That's one of the reasons why this shit starts to begin with.
JeepChick's picture
Submitted by JeepChick on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 13:01
Agreed Soup...that is my point. Does Halo simply become the rallying cry for a large amount of douchebags? Or is it a small segment of any game's players that act like that, just with Halo it is so much larger, you see a greater portion of it. Based on all comments here, I think that all games have the DB element. However, when you take a title such as Halo, that reaches so many gamers and has such a large loyal following, that title amplifies the behavoir and makes it more obvious to the gaming community. Nuff said....and :p I
LocGaw's picture
Submitted by LocGaw on Sat, 10/06/2007 - 07:56
It is not just halo. these problems exist in all games.
J-Cat's picture
Submitted by J-Cat on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 11:33
There is like so much Halo hype, it's the game that people were waiting for forever...
ATC_1982's picture
Submitted by ATC_1982 on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 11:35
Good thing I don't play the Halo series to know about this.
DarthClem's picture
Submitted by DarthClem on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 11:35
I must be hanging out in all the right places, because I haven't experienced any of this. Of course, it could just be that my clan is so full of fucktards that I've become immune to it.:D
SoupNazzi's picture
Submitted by SoupNazzi on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 11:37
I don't understand why this topic is still being discussed? The thread referred to blew-up over button combos in H2. Me, I'm playing H3.
codemonkey's picture
Submitted by codemonkey on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 11:37
10,000 mostly men gamers, and a situation where "gamers" are a bit more "childish" than most individuals (I also speak for myself...young at heart and attitude) all on the same site interacting. Chances are, someone wont like someone else at some point in time. Although I'm a laid back guy I see lots of people get upset at each other. In the end, it's not worth the argument, just move on and work with people you CAN get along with :)
Anonymous's picture
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 11:38
I noticied alot of bad behavior while playing Test Drive Unlimited. There were so many that played just to run somebody off of the road.
TDrag27's picture
Submitted by TDrag27 on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 11:39
Jeep - Thanks...But based on the number of thumbs down I'm getting...I'm pretty sure people don't want to hear it.
LB75Player's picture
Submitted by LB75Player on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 11:40
The behavior mentioned happens in every game. It's just most visible in Halo right now. Wait for the COD4 release, you'll see the same thing.
Aonon's picture
Submitted by Aonon on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 11:44
I have seen it and I fight it tooth and nail. I make any rooms I run the opposite. Make them fun and friendly as possible. As to why Halo brings this out in people, I don't have a frikn' clue. Sunspots maybe...?
JeepChick's picture
Submitted by JeepChick on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 11:45
Tara- Whether they want to or not I think your point is not only valid, but extremely important. A community is only as good as its most obnoixous member.
meemoos's picture
Submitted by meemoos on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 11:46
i must be reading the wrong forums cuz I'm not feeling/seeing this. Dumb ass people usually get deleted from my FL real fast. Send me a FR t and Jeep maybe your hanging w/the wrong crowd.
UnwashedMass's picture
Submitted by UnwashedMass on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 11:47
People are stupid en masse. Individually, they can be brilliant, but when it becomes a mob scene you're fuckered. The idiot factor increases exponentially. The hubris involved in so many folks' Halo skills tends to cause a lack of common sense. Glad I'm happy sucking at the game...
Lbsutke's picture
Submitted by Lbsutke on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 11:48
It is not just Halo that has this effect, apparently the WOW forum also has it's issues..IMHO Halo and Wow are the "big boys on the block" and with that you get 3 different type/styles of player. 1. happy go lucky...has not intention of being competive or serious about the game. 2. competitvie...wants to play enough and practice enough to be able to hold there own in MM. 3. Hardcore...lives breaths eats sleeps any and all aspect of there game, must practice constantly, learn all the tricks of the trade, use anything possible (without bridging, cheating, blah, blah) to dominate this game. Is it wrong to be any of these....no...is it wrong for one style of player to bash on another style of player...yes... so when one style of player says..oh I am just a social player and do not have to learn everything about the game like some people...or a hardcore player says I only play the game this way, anything else is crap...well that is wrong too. Basically play it the way you want to play it, dont bash someone else for putting the time in to learn new things or not learn new things. People in general just get butt hurt way to easily over these things..
SoupNazzi's picture
Submitted by SoupNazzi on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 11:57
Even if I don't agree with you, I'll still give you a thumbs up. Just because I don't agree, doesn't make your thoughts less valid.
JeepChick's picture
Submitted by JeepChick on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 12:02
Awww..SoupNazzi is a SoupSweetie.....LMAO
ekattan's picture
Submitted by ekattan on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 12:04
To me it's not Halo Jeepchick it's just a group of people from 2o2p that take the game far too seriously. When I joined up all I wanted is to be part of a clan which is comprised mainly of mature professionals who simply enjoy getting together and having some fun.
UnwashedMass's picture
Submitted by UnwashedMass on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 12:07
Ekattan is a douchenozzle. :D
ekattan's picture
Submitted by ekattan on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 12:11
Mass, you want to touch my douchenozzle? :)
Anonymous's picture
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 12:11
I think highlighting these issues is crediting the exception to the rule. 80% of the the site members probably didn't have any clue about the mayhem ensuing in the Halo forums. To blog about it and then meta-blog it is calling attention to something that doesn't deserve the publicity imo. Like when people blog about Britney and OJ getting too much coverage. Irony is a funny beast. :) Someone made a comment on Tara's blog saying that it "shores up" their reasons for staying away from online gaming. To me, that's a dirty shame. Highlighting the bad apples may scare some folks away .. we don't want to do that do we? In general, people know when they're being an asshat, they don't need the reminder.

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