Opinions please... Bosses and work questions

And remember that many people are in management because they are promoted to the highest level of their incompetence. Not to mention that project managers, middle management, sales reps, etc, are NOT the ones doing the work. They are usually not even trained in the field of technical expertise that they have been hired to oversee. It really makes no sense, but corporations rarely do. The ones who make the machine run smoothly get shat upon and then blamed if something goes wrong that the 'boss' told them to do or not do in the first place. Admittedly, some companies are better than others about listening to their employees but others take the stance that if you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem and they don't want to hear that what they have asked you to do isn't even possible or legal, in some cases. I have seen some rotten politics go on in various and assundry office settings.

You've got some good advice posted here. I like taking the boss to lunch and getting to know where he/she is coming from, what management style they hope institute and what expectations they have for the crew. I try to find ways through discussion to offer other views for their consideration. I check their response to see how genuinely receptive boss may be. If the boss is incapable of this or the answer show the boss has no clue, then that's a whole different ballgame...

I'm unemployed so HA. I have no advice I just wanted to be here.

Employees always think that they are smarter than their boss or believe they can perform at his or her job more efficiently. But they never stop to ask themselves why they are not the boss?

yep my last boss for 6 yrs. lets just say we got into an arguement because he was dumb. once i explained things, he chilled out and basically just did his email thing while i got the real work done. i think one thing about people if they are new to managing they tend to micromanage people who dont need to be micromanaged. and it can become a pain in the ass, i mean i dont need you to tell me how to do what i already know how to do, i need you to manage the bs like, supplies, licenes for the software, stuff like that. if someone is fing off then handle it. i guess a few questions, how long has he been there? if you talk to him do you think it will make a difference if he is as clueless as you say?

thats not true eka, some people actually enjoy being a worker, take me, i actually enjoy doing 3d cad, if i wanted to be in management i would have went to school for it.

and , typically in my field, i know more about what goes on in the department then the manager, because its very technical. not this job but the last one. fortunatly i have a super smart boss right now

Let me know if you find out... I'm a terrible manager. But, hopefully knowing that I'm terrible is half the battle.

If they are new to management or the company itself, it is to be expected. They always seem to want to micromanage and "fix" everything, even though they usually cause more problems than they fix. Hopefully, they'll wise up with more experience and learn to trust their employees. If you feel your job is secure, then you might want to voice your concerns/opinions. If not, it's probably best to suck it up and hope it will get better with time.

About the only thing you can do is tell them what you need from them boss wise. It's not your place to teach them how to be a boss and will come off badly if you try. You could go above them and let that level know your boss is clueless but that could come back and bit you in the ass. So it's best just to let your boss know what you need from them and go from there.

It never hurts to teach the boss, but it has to be done carefully and with tact. It has to be suggestions, not orders. When (if) they become good, they may realize the boost that you have given them and may be able to help you later.

you make friendly suggestion, you stay subtle and enter in its grace ... or you mail him some clues anonymously

Wow, harsh much?

The first question that has to be asked is, Do they want to learn how to be a good boss. Tank and others have great points..You need to find the balance of letting them know what you need, without have the perception of being pushy... Or you could just show him your boobs, and then tell him he needs to get his shit together, before he gets to see them again... any combination of these should work..

heheh fuckwit :) Worst job I ever had was being in charge of people - I will never go down that road. Fucking professional babysitter for adults compounded with endless useless meetings and reports on reports about reports - terrible. I'd get out of the way and enjoy the show.

My boss is fairly new, only a few months. She was having a horrible time managing, cuz she was trying to micromanage everyone and everything. I went to her and talked to her in a supportive way and she responded by "getting better". It's a slow, painful thing, learning how to lead. She doesn't micromanage any more, and that has solved a lot of the problem.

@ blowmonkey .....rofl

The Dilbert Principle: "The most ineffective people are strategically moved to the area where they can do the least damage - Management."