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Wed, 09/21/2016 - 09:05
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Mooch, the Legendary drops are lower in the non-heroic playlist, but they do drop. To find the Vanguard Playlist, while floating in orbit, hit the "select destination" button, then you'll see the Vanguard Playlist at the very top right corner of the screen. You should see the selections there for you to choose. 

Have you played enough story to unlock the Prison of Elders? If so, you could try that out. The loot drops at the end can include Legendary and Exotic items. Also it's a good source of Strange Coins and Motes. Xur comes on Fridays, so remember you'll want Strange Coins to buy his goodies. Court of Orxy on the Dreadnaught is also a decent place to get gear and tons of blue engrams. 

How much of the story have you played? Are you level 40 yet? When do you normally play? We might could run you through some higher level stuff if you don't mind getting one-shot by stuff...lol

Here is the info from the latest update:

  • Vanguard Playlist is now called The Taken War Strike Playlist but is otherwise unchanged

  • The SIVA Crisis Playlist consists of Taken King and Rise of Iron Strikes at 320 Light

  • The Taken War Heroic Strike Playlist is available for players who have not purchased Rise of Iron and is accessible in the Vanguard Strike Playlist page

  • No longer rewards Vanguard Marks

  • The SIVA Crisis Heroic Strike Playlist is now available to players who have purchased Rise of Iron

  • This Playlist replaces the Taken War Heroic Playlist in the Vanguard Strike Playlist

  • This Playlist is also the Weekly Heroic Strike featured Playlist

  • Recommended 350 Light

Wed, 09/21/2016 - 11:11 (Reply to #812)
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DarthTabasco wrote:

Mooch, the Legendary drops are lower in the non-heroic playlist, but they do drop. To find the Vanguard Playlist, while floating in orbit, hit the "select destination" button, then you'll see the Vanguard Playlist at the very top right corner of the screen. You should see the selections there for you to choose.

I can see where to get the Vanguard Strike Playlist--I just don't see a place where I can change the Normal to Heroic as most of the other stuff there is locked to me because of my light level.

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Have you played enough story to unlock the Prison of Elders? If so, you could try that out. The loot drops at the end can include Legendary and Exotic items. Also it's a good source of Strange Coins and Motes. Xur comes on Fridays, so remember you'll want Strange Coins to buy his goodies. Court of Orxy on the Dreadnaught is also a decent place to get gear and tons of blue engrams.

I will check this out as opposed to doing normal strikes. It just seems like the blue engrams that I have been getting are only marginally better than what I have and only raises my light level 1 or 2 points.

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How much of the story have you played? Are you level 40 yet? When do you normally play? We might could run you through some higher level stuff if you don't mind getting one-shot by stuff...lol

I think I've finished the whole story for The Taken King. Not able to start Rise or Iron because I'm below 280. I usually play at night and wouldn't mind getting one-shotted if you all want to carry me. Then maybe you can also tell me where the hell the TTK Heroic Strike playlist is as well!

DarthTabasco wrote:

Here is the info from the latest update:

  • Vanguard Playlist is now called The Taken War Strike Playlist but is otherwise unchanged

  • The SIVA Crisis Playlist consists of Taken King and Rise of Iron Strikes at 320 Light

  • The Taken War Heroic Strike Playlist is available for players who have not purchased Rise of Iron and is accessible in the Vanguard Strike Playlist page

Do you think this is why I can't see the TTK Heroic Strike playlist because I also bought Rise of Iron? The only Heroic strike version I see in that Vanguard section while floating in Orbit is the ROI but I'm WAY to low of light level to go in there.

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  • No longer rewards Vanguard Marks

  • The SIVA Crisis Heroic Strike Playlist is now available to players who have purchased Rise of Iron

  • This Playlist replaces the Taken War Heroic Playlist in the Vanguard Strike Playlist

  • This Playlist is also the Weekly Heroic Strike featured Playlist

  • Recommended 350 Light

Wed, 09/21/2016 - 11:19
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Just a couple of thoughts to add to Darth's post. I took a look at your titan on bungie to see where you were quest wise.  It looks like you can access level 41 prison of elders.  It was basically designed to help us get to 320 light so we could do the challenge of elders.  I never had much luck with legendary drops from the treasure chests, but the blues really helped light wise.  But give it a shot, maybe it will be more friendly to you.

I also recommend doing your "at the gates" quest if your light will allow it.  Its 2 story missions and a strike.   The strike is a little annoying but its worth it.  The end reward of that quest is a 320 legendary dreadfang sword. 

Neverending battle, if you can get into the herioc strikes, that should lead you to a 300 light fusion or shotgun at the end.  The shotgun is supposed to be a god roll conspiracy theory d. Kinda hoping they upped the light on that one, or that you don't have to do the siva stuff to get through that.

Keep working on some of your quests.  Some have legendary rewards, and if anything they will give you boosts to your vanguard rep.  Get more rep, get more packages for new loot.

 

 

Wed, 09/21/2016 - 11:39
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OK, now I see where part of the confusion is coming from Mooch. You can't change the difficulty in the Strike playlist. The difficulty is pre-determined by the Light level requirements and modifiers (if applicable).

The Heroic playlist is the highest Light list and is the only list that features modifiers (other than the Nighfall) - like this week's Arc Burn, Juggler, etc. 

I can see how it's confusing, too many lists and Bungie keeps changing the names and requirements. We are all in a mad rush to try and get our Light up for the new Raid on Friday, so even if we can't play with you right away, feel free to join our XBL party and we can chat. 

If we can get you to the point where you can Raid, then the game will really open up for you.

Also, there is always Crucible. No Light requirements unless playing Iron Banner or Trials of Osiris - and both of these are special events. You could try running some Crucible games to get drops - even if you get destroyed, you'll still get loot. 

Wed, 09/21/2016 - 14:21 (Reply to #815)
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DarthTabasco wrote:

OK, now I see where part of the confusion is coming from Mooch. You can't change the difficulty in the Strike playlist. The difficulty is pre-determined by the Light level requirements and modifiers (if applicable).

The Heroic playlist is the highest Light list and is the only list that features modifiers (other than the Nighfall) - like this week's Arc Burn, Juggler, etc. 

I can see how it's confusing, too many lists and Bungie keeps changing the names and requirements. We are all in a mad rush to try and get our Light up for the new Raid on Friday, so even if we can't play with you right away, feel free to join our XBL party and we can chat. 

If we can get you to the point where you can Raid, then the game will really open up for you.

Also, there is always Crucible. No Light requirements unless playing Iron Banner or Trials of Osiris - and both of these are special events. You could try running some Crucible games to get drops - even if you get destroyed, you'll still get loot. 

Thanks Darth! Honestly, could Bungie have made this any more confusing if they tried? It's as if they want their playbase to struggle as hard as possible to figure out what to do at endgame.

Also, I did Prison of Elder and got a legendary Spektar with 3 defense. I fused it with my 260 Spektar gauntlets and I don't think it did anything so I'm curious on what the whole point was to do that--or if I was even supposed to do that. Infusing is confusing. Destiny is confusing. Shooting stuff is fun though,

Wed, 09/21/2016 - 14:59
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The Light level 3 gear is basically optional gear that can drop and be infused if you like the stats and/or appearance. Essentially all you did was infuse the 260 into the 3 to get the new Light on that new piece.

I know, it's weird. You should have been around before we had 100% infuse rate. The old infusion system made it to where you would only get marginal increases in Light, no matter the difference. 

Honestly, those of us that have been playing for 2 years take for granted how much the game has changed and how confusing it can be for new or returning players (such as yourself). 

Wed, 09/28/2016 - 08:07
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Can someone explain infusing to me? I have a bunch of 3 light level legendaries and I have no idea why? What the hell do I do with them? The reason I don't get it is because why the hell would I want to infuse a higher attack level gun to a lower attach level gun? Why not just equip the higher attach gun and be done with it? I see no purpose to infusing.

Also, why am I handing in legendaries to the gun smith? What's the point? I've had a few khvostovs drop and I hand them in to the gunsmith and I get shit back other than like 100 rep or something. It doesn't make sense.

Also, is there a better way to get to 350 and beyond? I seem to be stuck at 345 grinding out rep and vanguard marks to get 350 stuff from the PvP factions and Vanguard. Not much fun if you ask me. I've been doing normal SIVA strikes but not getting a lot of useful drops and right now it says I'm not at the recommended light level to do heroics.

It's getting kind of boring to be hitting this wall before 350 when I know it's going to be the same type of wall 350+ until I'm "raid ready" at around 370.

Wed, 09/28/2016 - 08:26
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Mooch, check out this link, it has some nice advice in it for raising your light level

https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/54k1tc/a_comprehensive_...

Ranger and I also found that if you pick a strike from the director (I think those are the 320 light ones), that we were getting up to 365 blues.  Easier time, but no skeleton key drops.

Also, try to do a public event daily, I believe they are guaranteed to give you a legendary engram, which will decode up to 365. 

Those LL3 items are mostly cosmetic items that allow you to wear armor that makes you look like a taken, has neon lighting, etc.  I personally never used any of them. If you like the looks of them, you can take a higher light item and infuse it into that LL3 item to raise its light level up.

Basically infusing allows you to take an exotic or legendary item and increase its light level.  As the light level increases you will also see that stat points (intel, etc) increase with it to a point.  It looks like they capped the stat increases to whatever they are at 335.  Infusing does costs materials, glimmer, marks, etc, so be careful how often you infuse if you don't have a lot of those items.

Wed, 09/28/2016 - 09:34 (Reply to #819)
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I'm with you, Kal. I've deleted virtually all of the cosmetic gear. Maybe when I hit max light and get bored I'll take the cosmetic gear more seriously, but for now I want gear with gameplay perks.

Wed, 09/28/2016 - 09:55
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The LL3 stuff is not all totally useless, but you have to look at the perks to see if it's something you want. Only then, it might possibly be worth infusing for the perks, but the stats (Intellect, Discipline, Strength) may still be low. You won't know this until it's infused, so you are rolling the dice on if it's good or not. I found some nice pieces by infusing some of those LL3, but it wasn't anything better than what will normally drop. 

Bungie has really gimped the Light system with this update to make the game more of a grind.

Message me when you see me on and if I'm not in the middle of something, we'll run some stuff. I need to start running my other characters through the new content, so it's all good.

 

Wed, 09/28/2016 - 10:42
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Not totally useless, no.  I just never really got into trying them out much.  Now the new Days of Iron stuff.  Well, I may end up putting my Mau'ual's Maullers away if I can find a set of gauntlets that are nearly as good stat wise and I get the ornament/silver dust for them.  I really like the look of the chest and guantlets.  Something about fire I suppose ;)

Wed, 09/28/2016 - 12:27
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I don't remember if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but one of the things I like about the Days of Iron armor is that you can basically re-roll it as many times as you want until you get the Int/Dsc/Str stats you want, just costs you some legendary marks. It's essentially the legendary version of Glass Needles.
Wed, 09/28/2016 - 12:39 (Reply to #823)
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Now that's interesting!

Wed, 09/28/2016 - 13:46 (Reply to #824)
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BLAMnation wrote:
I don't remember if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but one of the things I like about the Days of Iron armor is that you can basically re-roll it as many times as you want until you get the Int/Dsc/Str stats you want, just costs you some legendary marks. It's essentially the legendary version of Glass Needles.

Once you unlock a Days of Iron box in your book, you can claim it over and over again. The first time it will give you 340 LL armor, any subsequent times will give you 3 LL armor. Infuse into the 3 LL armor and the stats get re-rolled.

I've gotten all of my Days of Iron arms, chests, and boots to Int/Dsc stats this way.

Wed, 09/28/2016 - 13:47 (Reply to #825)
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BLAMnation wrote:
I don't remember if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but one of the things I like about the Days of Iron armor is that you can basically re-roll it as many times as you want until you get the Int/Dsc/Str stats you want, just costs you some legendary marks. It's essentially the legendary version of Glass Needles.

When I first realized we could reacquire the armor packages for LL3 gear that could be infused, I was happy. The I realized the perks do not change, just the stats and I was sad.

Once I get down to min/maxing my characters I like to have gear that supports the weapons I use AND has good stat rolls. Right now I'm limited in my loadouts, so I'm forced to choose between stats or perks and, for me, perks win. 

I'm just blown away at the people that already have full Days of Iron Armor AND have full ornaments. These people must have spent a lot of cash at Eververse to get all of those ornaments and silver dust.

Wed, 09/28/2016 - 13:32
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There is a troop of Baboons on the loose.  Getting Baboon errors constantly now.  Very frustrating.  Hopefully Bungie won't tell me to check the network guide since I told them not to in all caps.

Thu, 09/29/2016 - 10:46
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Hot fix 24.0.3 will become available around 1 PM Eastern today.  When that happens you will be "kicked" out of the Game World and will have to install the update to get back in.

I followed the link that Bungie provided to detail what is happening in the hot fix and was taken to the update page.  I am happy to report that the notes for 24.0.3 are not there.  In fact the notes for 24.0.2 are not there either.  Thanks yet again Bungie!  

Thu, 09/29/2016 - 12:34 (Reply to #828)
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OldnAchy wrote:

Hot fix 24.0.3 will become available around 1 PM Eastern today.  When that happens you will be "kicked" out of the Game World and will have to install the update to get back in.

I followed the link that Bungie provided to detail what is happening in the hot fix and was taken to the update page.  I am happy to report that the notes for 24.0.3 are not there.  In fact the notes for 24.0.2 are not there either.  Thanks yet again Bungie!  

from: https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/45313/7_Destiny-Hotfix---092816

Destiny Hotfix - 09/29/1617h - Destiny Dev Team
2.4.0.3 - The one about Strikes.
 
As a follow up to the launch of Destiny: Rise of Iron, we're making some changes to address issues that have become apparent throughout the first week of gameplay.
 
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Strikes
  • Fixed an issue where the Abomination Heist Strike was not dropping rewards with the correct Light
  • Fixed an issue where the Winter's Run Strike was not dropping rewards with the correct Light
  • Fixed an issue where the Echo Chamber Strike was appearing in the wrong playlist
  • Omnigul will now drop rewards once during a Strike and will require the Strike to be finished to drop additional rewards
Archon's Forge
  • Quarantine Patrols will now always drop an Archon’s Forge Offering upon killing the Splicer Priest in the second phase of the Activity
  • Archon’s Forge has a higher chance to drop Offerings upon completion
 
Items
  • Fixed an issue where players who completed the "Beauty in Destruction" Questline did not receive a Gjallarhorn
    • Players can retrieve their Gjallarhorn from the Weapon Blueprint Collection on the Year 1 tab
  • Fixed an issue where Vanguard Reputation Boosters were not working in the SIVA Crisis Strike Playlist
Thu, 09/29/2016 - 13:30
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RIP Omigul farm. I can't believe they are finally fixing this exploit, considering how long it's been around. I'm glad they added a way to reliably get SIVA offerings. 

Thu, 09/29/2016 - 13:30
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Lol.  Thanks.  That must have come up after I looked.  I did tweet @Bungiehelp and asked why they hadn't put up a description yet.  That was about 2 1/2 hours ago.

Thu, 09/29/2016 - 14:31
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Oh, more siva offerings!  Hopefully now we can find a busy forge and have some fun.

Thu, 09/29/2016 - 16:04 (Reply to #832)
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KalSC wrote:

Oh, more siva offerings!  Hopefully now we can find a busy forge and have some fun.

 

Or at least finish a bounty ... grrrrr.

Thu, 09/29/2016 - 14:41
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I'm tired of doing hard strikes with randoms. Too many quitters. Anyone need someone to do strikes with?

Thu, 09/29/2016 - 16:36 (Reply to #834)
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Osiris wrote:

I'm tired of doing hard strikes with randoms. Too many quitters. Anyone need someone to do strikes with?

I may be available tonight.

Thu, 09/29/2016 - 16:49
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I am available as well.  Heroic strikes have helped me rank up from 354 to 357 between last night and this afternoon even if they are a grind.  In most cases with small arms and solar burn some of the strikes are actually not too bad.  With a fire team we can bail on the bad ones and/or not worry about the randoms..  The major strike to stay away from is the Shield Brothers.  Too much solar fire going on in close quarters (yep the damn tank).

Thu, 09/29/2016 - 22:17
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Gonna start watching TV in the evenings.  More enjoyable than trying to grind heroic strikes and Crucible alone.  Tried 4 strikes 2nite.  The Timmies quit on me on 3 of them.  You really have to grind Crucible.  Good drops are sporadic and somewhat rare.  Thought there would be a fire team out there to join for strikes but there wasn't. 

Tough enough to deal with that crap during the day.

 

Thu, 09/29/2016 - 22:32
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I was waiting around for some peeps and then skinnie and doorgunner joined me. We did green and blue archon forge and devils lair normal.

FYI, devils lair on normal drops blues up to 365. More than one usually. skinnie said he had 4 drop once. I got 2 in each of two runs. Seems like worthwhile grinding.

Fri, 09/30/2016 - 07:14
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You don't have to grind the Heroic strikes. As DEEP mentioned you can got to the Director and select your favorite Strike and then select the Heroic (320 Light) version and you are golden. The Blue engrams will drop up to 365. The only drawback to this method is that I do not think Skeleton Keys will drop.

Alternatively, you can select the non-Heroic playlist - again, the 320 Light playlist - and grind those for a similar effect. The added benefit is that these WILL drop Skeleton Keys. I can confirm this happens in the 320 playlist because I got two from the list last night. 

Once I got my keys, then I went back to the Director and picked the Strike I wanted to play at 320 - meaning the Strike I wanted to use my key on to get the loot - and this will give you 365+ gear. Remember the Strike chest is the only way now to get the Strike-specific loot. Also, these Strike chests are excellent ways to get better Artifacts. Take notice the Artifacts will be Blue, so be sure to look at the Light before you assume it's not an upgrade.

Basically, you can pretty much avoid the Heroic playlist. 

Also, this was posted in the Weekly Update:

We’re looking into the way Destiny: Rise of Iron rewards the completion of activities with items that will increase your Light. Currently, our opinion is that Ghosts and Artifacts are dropping less frequently than intended, making it difficult for players to reach higher Light after 365. In the weeks to come, we’ll be investigating a solution that provides alternate max Light sources for these two slots. Additionally, when the Heroic Raid is released, many Activities and all Engrams will increase their maximum Light, making it easier overall to progress.

Fri, 09/30/2016 - 08:35
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 Just read through the weekly update.  Iron Banner is next week!  They have us playing supremacy and the offerings will be the new auto rifle, shotgun, class items and gauntlets.  Looks like we have a chance at artifacts through the bounties too. Below is the listing of changes to how we get rep. I guess we'll see what the bounties are like and how bad of a grind this is going to be.

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We have some different ideas for how this contest can reward the Guardians who submit themselves to it. You’ll find more paths to rewards and customization:

  • The Tempered mechanic is gone – play when you want
  • There are now 4 Weekly Bounties
  • Bounty rewards include:
    • An Iron Banner item not featured on the Vendor
    • A chance at an Iron Banner Artifact or Vanity Item
    • 25 Legendary Marks
    • 750 Iron Banner Reputation
  • Victory in a match grants 250 Reputation
  • Iron Medallions grant 150 Reputation each, upon Victor
Fri, 09/30/2016 - 09:16
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Difficulty was not the issue last night.  The one strike where the Timmies hung around was Fallen Saber, usually a pain in the butt, especially with Taken at the Warsat, but with solar burn and small arms we cruised thru and took out the boss shank with no real issues.  The issue is running strikes with Timmies.  Doesn't matter how one selects the strike the probability of one or both Timmies quitting is pretty high.  Last night the 75% quit rate got under my skin.

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