So your say its okay to have a game where you can have sex with women and beat them to death, it's fine to run over innocent people with a car? And you have no problem with it, because you don't engage in it and because it's a fanatasy or satire? I don't respect that. You buy you endorse it.
Only if you choose to do so. This games is like a life simulator you choose how play and what you do. Personally I have not killed an innocent member of public for now nor I have paid for Sex. I have how ever killed a shit load of deer and game
So your say its okay to have a game where you can have sex with women and beat them to death, it's fine to run over innocent people with a car? And you have no problem with it, because you don't engage in it and because it's a fanatasy or satire? I don't respect that. You buy you endorse it.
You just said it right there! It's a game. Anyone who has ever played GTA should damn well know what to expect. Just because you had some epiphony don't come around in a GTA thread with the holier than thou attitude about how it's wrong and against what you think... that's just trying to stir the pot... which I also smoke in game, but not in real life. Yes it is a game that is rated M for a reason. It is for entertainment purposes only for adults. Does it cause me to go out and do said acts... fuck no. Because I can differentiate reality from fantasy. You don't like it don't buy it, but again also stop playing HALO because it depicts violence. Stop playing CoD because it depicts violence and promotes terrorism ie. airport scene. Stop playing racing games cause it depicts unsafe driving practices... I could go on. Yes I have no problem at all playing a game where I can go to a strip club, throw dollars around, get her back to her place, fuck her and then hit her with a car. When strippers and prosti's start being hit by cars and robbed on a regular basis in real life I'll stop playing.
So your say its okay to have a game where you can have sex with women and beat them to death, it's fine to run over innocent people with a car? And you have no problem with it, because you don't engage in it and because it's a fanatasy or satire? I don't respect that. You buy you endorse it.
Do you endorse the destruction of Toyko and the death of innocent people riding trains?
So your say its okay to have a game where you can have sex with women and beat them to death, it's fine to run over innocent people with a car? And you have no problem with it, because you don't engage in it and because it's a fanatasy or satire? I don't respect that. You buy you endorse it.
I do not endorse breathing fire and burning up someone, but I do play Scorpion in Mortal Kombat.
By buying the game you do endorse it, I don't understand how you can say otherwise. I'm sorry but I can't equate COD and Forza to GTA, I don't have the option to kill hookers in those games. I don't think I am holier than thou, you said it not me. I really didn't think I would get so much backlash from trying to stand up for a vulnerable population in our nation. If I feel I have an opinion I share, by your own words, if you don't like my post you don't have to read it or respond to it. But if I see something I don't agree with or that I feel disrespects a segment of our population then I will speak up and I will make noise because just like GTA I have the freedom to do so.
I think joking about trains and a giant lizard stomping on people is a little different then beating a hooker to death. Where's the satire in that?
I don't have a problem with either. I do have some Japanese friends who might not see the humor in your sig with the typhoon destruction still in their thoughts. I also have friends who think killing pretend hookers in a video game is very funny. While not my cup of tea, I don't think they endorse it happening in the real world.
Fine, you caught me, I am on vacation and I have nothing better to do. I'm not perfect and yes there are probably holes in my logic, but it makes me feel uneasy when I see such violence against women in our culture and for a company to include it in a agme. It just does not seem to fit. I wish no one would buy it, but people do what they want and excuse what they want when it does not impact them. I've seen the effects of violence on people and I don't like it. There has to be a line somewhere that can be drawn when a company goes too far. I don't mean to pass judgement on others but to have to say having this option in a game really bothers me. I think it crosses the line. Do we have to live in a bubble and think that everything is okay in a game? What about rape, torture, beheading, cutting people up with chainsaws, shooting madly into a crowd? I mean if it's done in a satirical manner we should all just accept it. No big deal.
Fine, you caught me, I am on vacation and I have nothing better to do. I'm not perfect and yes there are probably holes in my logic, but it makes me feel uneasy when I see such violence against women in our culture and for a company to include it in a agme. It just does not seem to fit. I wish no one would buy it, but people do what they want and excuse what they want when it does not impact them. I've seen the effects of violence on people and I don't like it. There has to be a line somewhere that can be drawn when a company goes too far. I don't mean to pass judgement on others but to have to say having this option in a game really bothers me. I think it crosses the line. Do we have to live in a bubble and think that everything is okay in a game? What about rape, torture, beheading, cutting people up with chainsaws, shooting madly into a crowd? I mean if it's done in a satirical manner we should all just accept it. No big deal.
When you put it that way I can agree with you. But because this formula has worked and helped make Rockstar to be the huge publisher they are today, they will keep pushing the limits.The way your previous post was stated just really set a fire under my ass. Sorry for being a dick. I do call bullshit thou as you can equate CoD, HALO and Forza... you just don't want too.
The way I see it is Rockstar have built the most detailed virtual world ever. I don't think there is something in real life that I cannot do on this game if its from killing hooker (bad) to playing gold, having some Tea, Working out, Cycling, Swimming, playing video games in a video game, Surfing the net, watching TV, driving, Racing, Flying, Money on Stocks, Betting, Tennism Yoga shit the list is endless
Apart from going to the loo and having a dump i'm struggling to work out what you cannot do in the game.
Maybe they could have left prostitutes out and all the sex stuff etc but like stated they have not left much out at all.
The difference between our world and GTA is that there are no consequences where as If i go around blasting prostitutes in R/L i'm Fucked.
So I suppose its upto the player. If you want to be good and just play as a bank robber its good. But you want to play a fucked up dude and kill and fuck everything that moves you can.
I Suppose its the reason why they made over $800 Million on Tuesday alone. Apart from the Missions you make GTA the game that you want.
I think everyone knows what they're getting into when they put money down and bring home a copy of GTA. The crimes, the drugs, the whoring... yep all here. It also takes place in LA so it's all appropriate, just ask LBsutke :) There's even gay dog sex going on in this game (4 legged dogs, not Yo Dog dogs) . Plenty of racial faux pas being spoken as well. And know what? It's a hell of a lot of fun and entertaining as well.
I really didn't think I would get so much backlash from trying to stand up for a [b]vulnerable population[/b] in our nation.
The 1950's called, they want their chauvinist back. I honestly don't believe the women of this site are having to read the garbage you're spewing. I would wager there's plenty of women who would find your wanting to save them from the big bad gaming company to be just about as misogynistic and as sexist as it gets. Women are not your inferior and do not need you trying to mount your silver steed to come to the rescue.
Let me ask you something. Do you watch movies? Television? Read books and or comics? All of these mediums are fantasy and all depict the same if not worse than is depicted in these video games. Yet here you are on an Older Gamer's website, slamming a video game....that is made for adults on it's content being inappropriate for our consumption.
Last time I checked, we as adults do not need your supervision or oversight.
Anyone who plays a FPS and complains about violence in videogames is a fucking hypocrite. Tossing grenades, dropping nukes, blowing holes in others with lasers are all fine...but don't you dare hurt a woman! You big bad men....always keeping women down! Sorry, but not to include the killing of women is sexist and demeaning. All of these things are ok for everyone, or nobody. There's no middle ground. If my wife can don her Pink MasterChief power armor and get shot in the face, then a female NPC can surely get shot and killed in a video game.
More men are killed in GTA and every other game ever designed than women. If you started making games now, of just killing women and no men, you'd have about 30 years of catching up to do before you even scratched the surface.
Try back when you've destroyed and or given away every piece of medium that glorifies sex and or violence in your possession. Don't sell them now....wouldn't want to profit off of violence now.
I really didn't think I would get so much backlash from trying to stand up for a [b]vulnerable population[/b] in our nation.
The 1950's called, they want their chauvinist back. I honestly don't believe the women of this site are having to read the garbage you're spewing. I would wager there's plenty of women who would find your wanting to save them from the big bad gaming company to be just about as misogynistic and as sexist as it gets. Women are not your inferior and do not need you trying to mount your silver steed to come to the rescue.
Let me ask you something. Do you watch movies? Television? Read books and or comics? All of these mediums are fantasy and all depict the same if not worse than is depicted in these video games. Yet here you are on an Older Gamer's website, slamming a video game....that is made for adults on it's content being inappropriate for our consumption.
Last time I checked, we as adults do not need your supervision or oversight.
Anyone who plays a FPS and complains about violence in videogames is a fucking hypocrite. Tossing grenades, dropping nukes, blowing holes in others with lasers are all fine...but don't you dare hurt a woman! You big bad men....always keeping women down! Sorry, but not to include the killing of women is sexist and demeaning. All of these things are ok for everyone, or nobody. There's no middle ground. If my wife can don her Pink MasterChief power armor and get shot in the face, then a female NPC can surely get shot and killed in a video game.
More men are killed in GTA and every other game ever designed than women. If you started making games now, of just killing women and no men, you'd have about 30 years of catching up to do before you even scratched the surface.
Try back when you've destroyed and or given away every piece of medium that glorifies sex and or violence in your possession. Don't sell them now....wouldn't want to profit off of violence now.
Well, if its physical copies of that violence, that's cool. That digital violence is the one that really gets to me.
Edited because I caught up and read the other posts here as well: Dude. Seriously? Why is it you're at the middle of seemingly every clusterfuck in this forum these days? You and Shadow. How about we tone it down a little bit and remember that we're all tax-paying adults, and we're getting all pissy over video games.
Edited because I caught up and read the other posts here as well: Dude. Seriously? Why is it you're at the middle of seemingly every clusterfuck in this forum these days? You and Shadow. How about we tone it down a little bit and remember that we're all tax-paying adults, and we're getting all pissy over video games.
hey keep me out of this. I've backed off a ton in this forum.
Edited because I caught up and read the other posts here as well: Dude. Seriously? Why is it you're at the middle of seemingly every clusterfuck in this forum these days? You and Shadow. How about we tone it down a little bit and remember that we're all tax-paying adults, and we're getting all pissy over video games.
It's because whenever I interject an opinion I'm called names and or told it doesn't matter because I'm considered some kind of kook. Also it doesn't help that in every thread I start someone has to derail the hell out of it and bait me into this sort of garbage.
He's on vacation and was looking to troll, and I like the moron that I am fell right into it. I really tried not to, but when I feel strongly about a subject it's hard for me not to put my two cents in. His post didn't just piss me off, it pissed off Michelle as well. She's a gamer and can't stand this sort of condescension toward women. So I spoke up and only regret that I gave this troll the satisfaction.
Obviously you've mistaken me for someone who takes you seriously azure...for as much hot do you blow you could raise the hindonberg...
I could give a rat's ass what you think of me Radikal. You're a hypocritical misogynist, and my popularity or lack there of won't change that. The sad part is that no one else has called you on your garbage. Someone who playing FPS like Halo and says he would rather say "Walk on the skulls of my enemies than Walk on eggshells" has no business saying anything about the glorification of violence.
Funny how you evoke the Hindenburg. The Nazis thought they knew what was best for everyone too.
Obviously you've mistaken me for someone who takes you seriously azure...for as much hot do you blow you could raise the hindonberg...
I could give a rat's ass what you think of me Radikal. You're a hypocritical misogynist, and my popularity or lack there of won't change that. The sad part is that no one else has called you on your garbage. Someone who playing FPS like Halo and says he would rather say "Walk on the skulls of my enemies than Walk on eggshells" has no business saying anything about the glorification of violence.
Funny how you evoke the Hindenburg. The Nazis thought they knew what was best for everyone too.
Hell yeah! Dude I owe you a drink. Nail on the head.
The inability to respond to a difference of opinion without resorting to name calling is usually indicative of lower intelligence or immaturity. Sounds like a fucking elementary school cafeteria in here. I guess that's why I love you guys so much. When I was in the third grade I had my stepmother buy me some MJ Nikes...unfortunately she got the Michael Jackson Nikes, not the Michael Jordans. Took me a while to live that one down. As for the GTA hooker thing, I think they should only give you health for eating dead hookers, not for fucking them. I can respect the fact that your opinion may be different than mine. Now, suck my health bar.
The amount of stupidity and pure shit expressed in this thread is astounding. This is why we can't have nice things. I wanted to interject with something approaching sensical, but the mindnumbingly stupid shit I've read...../mindblown
Seriously, we managed to Godwin the Hindenberg?! Holy fuck, that's a special kind of stupid right there.
Ignoring the socio-political aspects of using hookers to replenish health and then beat to death to get the money back (I've always laughed at that), the only reason I don't play the GTA games is that I lack the motorskills required to move the character around in a manner that doesn't involve running into walls like a drunk. I can't even drive a vehicle down an empty street without hitting something. I returned the copy I rented of San Andreas *early*, because I realized that I wasn't going to be able to play it. Back to WoW I went.
Also, the video linked was funny. And $800 million in sales on the first day? Wow. Way to go, Rockstar.
You just said it right there! It's a game. Anyone who has ever played GTA should damn well know what to expect. Just because you had some epiphony don't come around in a GTA thread with the holier than thou attitude about how it's wrong and against what you think... that's just trying to stir the pot... which I also smoke in game, but not in real life. Yes it is a game that is rated M for a reason. It is for entertainment purposes only for adults. Does it cause me to go out and do said acts... fuck no. Because I can differentiate reality from fantasy. You don't like it don't buy it, but again also stop playing HALO because it depicts violence. Stop playing CoD because it depicts violence and promotes terrorism ie. airport scene. Stop playing racing games cause it depicts unsafe driving practices... I could go on. Yes I have no problem at all playing a game where I can go to a strip club, throw dollars around, get her back to her place, fuck her and then hit her with a car. When strippers and prosti's start being hit by cars and robbed on a regular basis in real life I'll stop playing.
Do you endorse the destruction of Toyko and the death of innocent people riding trains?
I do not endorse breathing fire and burning up someone, but I do play Scorpion in Mortal Kombat.
By buying the game you do endorse it, I don't understand how you can say otherwise. I'm sorry but I can't equate COD and Forza to GTA, I don't have the option to kill hookers in those games. I don't think I am holier than thou, you said it not me. I really didn't think I would get so much backlash from trying to stand up for a vulnerable population in our nation. If I feel I have an opinion I share, by your own words, if you don't like my post you don't have to read it or respond to it. But if I see something I don't agree with or that I feel disrespects a segment of our population then I will speak up and I will make noise because just like GTA I have the freedom to do so.
I think joking about trains and a giant lizard stomping on people is a little different then beating a hooker to death. Where's the satire in that?
I don't have a problem with either. I do have some Japanese friends who might not see the humor in your sig with the typhoon destruction still in their thoughts. I also have friends who think killing pretend hookers in a video game is very funny. While not my cup of tea, I don't think they endorse it happening in the real world.
My mother was eaten by a giant lizard and hit by a train!
Fine, you caught me, I am on vacation and I have nothing better to do. I'm not perfect and yes there are probably holes in my logic, but it makes me feel uneasy when I see such violence against women in our culture and for a company to include it in a agme. It just does not seem to fit. I wish no one would buy it, but people do what they want and excuse what they want when it does not impact them. I've seen the effects of violence on people and I don't like it. There has to be a line somewhere that can be drawn when a company goes too far. I don't mean to pass judgement on others but to have to say having this option in a game really bothers me. I think it crosses the line. Do we have to live in a bubble and think that everything is okay in a game? What about rape, torture, beheading, cutting people up with chainsaws, shooting madly into a crowd? I mean if it's done in a satirical manner we should all just accept it. No big deal.
When you put it that way I can agree with you. But because this formula has worked and helped make Rockstar to be the huge publisher they are today, they will keep pushing the limits.The way your previous post was stated just really set a fire under my ass. Sorry for being a dick. I do call bullshit thou as you can equate CoD, HALO and Forza... you just don't want too.
People flaming Radikal is bad!
The way I see it is Rockstar have built the most detailed virtual world ever. I don't think there is something in real life that I cannot do on this game if its from killing hooker (bad) to playing gold, having some Tea, Working out, Cycling, Swimming, playing video games in a video game, Surfing the net, watching TV, driving, Racing, Flying, Money on Stocks, Betting, Tennism Yoga shit the list is endless
Apart from going to the loo and having a dump i'm struggling to work out what you cannot do in the game.
Maybe they could have left prostitutes out and all the sex stuff etc but like stated they have not left much out at all.
The difference between our world and GTA is that there are no consequences where as If i go around blasting prostitutes in R/L i'm Fucked.
So I suppose its upto the player. If you want to be good and just play as a bank robber its good. But you want to play a fucked up dude and kill and fuck everything that moves you can.
I Suppose its the reason why they made over $800 Million on Tuesday alone. Apart from the Missions you make GTA the game that you want.
I'm trying to keep it together... it's hard.
Thats what she said.
sorry. Had to be done.
I'm fixing to channel my inner Trevor if 2:30 doesn't come quicker... and by that I mean shitting behind a dumpster.
I think everyone knows what they're getting into when they put money down and bring home a copy of GTA. The crimes, the drugs, the whoring... yep all here. It also takes place in LA so it's all appropriate, just ask LBsutke :) There's even gay dog sex going on in this game (4 legged dogs, not Yo Dog dogs) . Plenty of racial faux pas being spoken as well. And know what? It's a hell of a lot of fun and entertaining as well.
Thanks for all the comments, I feel better now.
The 1950's called, they want their chauvinist back. I honestly don't believe the women of this site are having to read the garbage you're spewing. I would wager there's plenty of women who would find your wanting to save them from the big bad gaming company to be just about as misogynistic and as sexist as it gets. Women are not your inferior and do not need you trying to mount your silver steed to come to the rescue.
Let me ask you something. Do you watch movies? Television? Read books and or comics? All of these mediums are fantasy and all depict the same if not worse than is depicted in these video games. Yet here you are on an Older Gamer's website, slamming a video game....that is made for adults on it's content being inappropriate for our consumption.
Last time I checked, we as adults do not need your supervision or oversight.
Anyone who plays a FPS and complains about violence in videogames is a fucking hypocrite. Tossing grenades, dropping nukes, blowing holes in others with lasers are all fine...but don't you dare hurt a woman! You big bad men....always keeping women down! Sorry, but not to include the killing of women is sexist and demeaning. All of these things are ok for everyone, or nobody. There's no middle ground. If my wife can don her Pink MasterChief power armor and get shot in the face, then a female NPC can surely get shot and killed in a video game.
More men are killed in GTA and every other game ever designed than women. If you started making games now, of just killing women and no men, you'd have about 30 years of catching up to do before you even scratched the surface.
Try back when you've destroyed and or given away every piece of medium that glorifies sex and or violence in your possession. Don't sell them now....wouldn't want to profit off of violence now.
Well, if its physical copies of that violence, that's cool. That digital violence is the one that really gets to me.
Edited because I caught up and read the other posts here as well: Dude. Seriously? Why is it you're at the middle of seemingly every clusterfuck in this forum these days? You and Shadow. How about we tone it down a little bit and remember that we're all tax-paying adults, and we're getting all pissy over video games.
hey keep me out of this. I've backed off a ton in this forum.
It's because whenever I interject an opinion I'm called names and or told it doesn't matter because I'm considered some kind of kook. Also it doesn't help that in every thread I start someone has to derail the hell out of it and bait me into this sort of garbage.
He's on vacation and was looking to troll, and I like the moron that I am fell right into it. I really tried not to, but when I feel strongly about a subject it's hard for me not to put my two cents in. His post didn't just piss me off, it pissed off Michelle as well. She's a gamer and can't stand this sort of condescension toward women. So I spoke up and only regret that I gave this troll the satisfaction.
Obviously you've mistaken me for someone who takes you seriously azure...for as much hot do you blow you could raise the hindonberg...
I could give a rat's ass what you think of me Radikal. You're a hypocritical misogynist, and my popularity or lack there of won't change that. The sad part is that no one else has called you on your garbage. Someone who playing FPS like Halo and says he would rather say "Walk on the skulls of my enemies than Walk on eggshells" has no business saying anything about the glorification of violence.
Funny how you evoke the Hindenburg. The Nazis thought they knew what was best for everyone too.
The inability to respond to a difference of opinion without resorting to name calling is usually indicative of lower intelligence or immaturity. Sounds like a fucking elementary school cafeteria in here. I guess that's why I love you guys so much. When I was in the third grade I had my stepmother buy me some MJ Nikes...unfortunately she got the Michael Jackson Nikes, not the Michael Jordans. Took me a while to live that one down. As for the GTA hooker thing, I think they should only give you health for eating dead hookers, not for fucking them. I can respect the fact that your opinion may be different than mine. Now, suck my health bar.
Is this not a Sandbox topic? Can it please be moved?
The amount of stupidity and pure shit expressed in this thread is astounding. This is why we can't have nice things. I wanted to interject with something approaching sensical, but the mindnumbingly stupid shit I've read...../mindblown
Seriously, we managed to Godwin the Hindenberg?! Holy fuck, that's a special kind of stupid right there.
Ignoring the socio-political aspects of using hookers to replenish health and then beat to death to get the money back (I've always laughed at that), the only reason I don't play the GTA games is that I lack the motorskills required to move the character around in a manner that doesn't involve running into walls like a drunk. I can't even drive a vehicle down an empty street without hitting something. I returned the copy I rented of San Andreas *early*, because I realized that I wasn't going to be able to play it. Back to WoW I went.
Also, the video linked was funny. And $800 million in sales on the first day? Wow. Way to go, Rockstar.
Once again azure dreams of the outside world brings it to a new level.
Again another slam at my agoraphobia. You know what? Fuck all of you people. Enjoy your dead forums.