People Act Like Timmies on 2o2p

doodirock

Shared on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 13:38
This blog is an response post from Jcats blog today.  It was a great post and talks about a lot of things that I have seen over the years on 2old2play.  I figured I would take my comments over there and put them into my own blog to let others see the point of view of a long time member and admin. If you didn't read the blog, it essentially talks about how members of 2old2play can be mean, disrespectful, and act in many ways just like a "Timmie."  Since I have seen a lot about this recently (this idea shows up on the site about once every 4-5 months) I posted my response below.

The site has always had an issue with personalities rubbing people the wrong way.  In fact, when we first started we had broken off from another site because people over there took things too seriously.  We wanted to have fun, poke fun at each other, and generally act like douchebags.  The thing is, as new people started to join we have to slowly ween them on to our type of comedy.  Not everyone got it and many left.  I think it's safe to say that back in those growing days I banned more people then I ever have in the last 2 years.  Why?  One because we knew exactly what type of people we wanted in our clan and Two because banning someone back then didn't mean days of protesting PMs' posts, and flame wars.

The biggest issue then and  now  is more personalities.  The best way the site can and has dealt with this is to form more clans.  At least with clan, you can create smaller areas of the site in which more like minded adults can game.  This frees up a lot more of the he said she crap that you can often see in the main areas of the site.  Its a place to air your grievances.  Even still you are not going to like everyone in you clan and issue are more then likely going to arise there as well.  It's simply how you deal with those issues that dictates whether you leave the clan, join a new one, start a new one, or leave the site.  People tend to take their one bad experience with a members and pin it up as "How the sites members ship acts."  With that they also tend to refer to how immature the site is.

The truth is that this is not a mature gaming site.  In fact when we started long ago our original motto was, "An immature gaming site for adults."  I personally have always been fully aware of how the general public can act on the Internet.  With no accountability and no real way to ID someone, there will always be drama.  Age has nothing to do with it. Like I stated above, we never wanted that in the first place.  The site was built off of steering away from the idea of age = maturity.  I think the biggest problem with peoples ideas of 2o2p is that they think its possible for a site to deliver the same type of personality that one member has within all its members.  Unfortunately, no site can do that. 

What people need to remember is that 2o2p serves as a place to meet other people with in your age bracket.  People tend to forget age doesn't mean you are not an asshole.  Just like real life, you have to weed out the people that you don't get along with.  A web site cant do that for you.  We can't police how one group acts with another, nor do we think we should.  If you dont like a person, stop talking to them.  Why continue with back and forth internet talk that gets both parties no where?  We saw it a lot back in the politics forum as well as the comp forums.  In the end you dont win or lose.  You just waste more valuable time that you could be gaming.

The real question you should be asking yourself is, Have you made more gaming friends because of 2old2play then without it?  Do you have a better time when you are playing these games because of it?  If the answer is yes, then 2o2p is doing its job.  If someone is an asshole on the forum, then you are in no way forced to listen to him.  Thats what clan forums are for.  ;)

Comments

Baine's picture
Submitted by Baine on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 13:42
That and I think that people take things written in blogs as the complete story and never consider there might be another angle to things. I know that is the case for the blog I was refered to as "timmie" and "retard" in the other day. Not that I mind actually...Infamy is good.
Baine's picture
Submitted by Baine on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 13:42
Oh yeah, thumbs down for good sentence structure.
Durty's picture
Submitted by Durty on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 13:43
Yay for immature adults!! w00t!
J-Cat's picture
Submitted by J-Cat on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 13:45
Thank Doodi! Seriously you run a tight ship... I just wanted to osay a few things. #1. I started on line gaming cause of 2o2p. I met the most fantastic people. I (heart) my clan. I love it here. I really do. If I didn't I would leave. Instead I get the shakes when I don't log in.... #2. I think there is a difference between immaturrity and meaness. Shooting your buddies in the head=good plain fun. Being a jackass to strangers not so good. #3. I am not sure that you (as the site's founder) and the mods can really do too much, nor should you. You can do what you have been doing, clean up the REALLY bad stuff and move on. Placing the bannhammer in select cases... and only when it warrants. #4. But what can the rest of us do? If you see a bully in RL,w aht do you do? Do you do nothing, or do you stand up? Like I said: immature behaviour with your buddies = good clean fun. Nastiness to strangers = crapping in your own bed.
Rau's picture
Submitted by Rau on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 13:49
Well put douchebag.
Caesar's picture
Submitted by Caesar on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 13:52
great post doodi +25
doodirock's picture
Submitted by doodirock on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 13:54
I totally agree J. In fact I like blogs like yours. I think its extremely helpful to remind people how fucking stupid it is to be an ass on a website. Its pointless, servers no one, and only helps to degrade a site that you frequent. I will also say that i TOTALLY agree with Baine as well. I have been the center of MILLIONS of blog posts, PMs, posts, and emails. I would say about 80% of the time the people talking about me or a situation with me is based entirely on half truth. I just recently went through this again not 2 weeks ago. Lies have a way of sounding a lot more believable on the Internet. After all with no consequences in the online word, how can there be cause for complete trust or truth?
doodirock's picture
Submitted by doodirock on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 13:56
Oh and PS: Caesar you design is starting to fit nicely with my blog theme. Thanks. :P
TDrag27's picture
Submitted by TDrag27 on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 13:57
2o2p is kind of like a new relationship. There's the honeymoon period where you are just happy that you found the place. "Mature adults that play games! Woo hoo!" Then you face reality and realize the site has some faults. Some people are mean, immature, fart a lot from their mouths, or are just generally unlikable. Then you choose to accept those faults and focus on the positive aspects (clans, LANs, whatever you like) and you ignore the rest. OR you dump it and jump ship, rinse and repeat.
doodirock's picture
Submitted by doodirock on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 13:59
TDrag27 gets a cookie for saying what I said in 1/3 of the time.
J-Cat's picture
Submitted by J-Cat on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 14:01
Re: Baine: I agree completely.. I was even gonna PM ya. When shit flies it covers everyone, you can't even tell who is who anymore. No point at all in trying to figure out blog fights. Unless it features me. Cause I never lie, I am the paragon of truth, justice and the Canadian way. Which means I shall back out meekly and apologise for my awesomeness. so sorry. and.... there's Erica..... like clockwork...
rabbmasterflash's picture
Submitted by rabbmasterflash on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 14:03
Baine is a Timmy Retard
Baine's picture
Submitted by Baine on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 14:03
I'll put it out there. I am not a very nice guy. Its how I am. But, I am very fair, to a fault almost and I have giving more people second chances than most. I think that's what is the hardest, believe me there is nothing I would have liked to do than to comment back about every little trivial insult I got over the whole "clan membership removal". But I know some people just love to be victims. A website like this is like a cross section of the real world. And there are all kinds of people in it. I would like to take a moment and personally thank the people in my Clan for using discretion and thinking about things rather than dog-piling on something. Asses.
JohnnyCornholer's picture
Submitted by JohnnyCornholer on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 14:24
I would just like to state for the record that my entire clan is a bunch of immature asshats with a penchant for distasteful humor. That said, I love those guys and this site. I know of no other place with such a large community of mostly great gamers.
LuxDraconis's picture
Submitted by LuxDraconis on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 14:29
I'm to old for bull shit(clan plug HAHA!) I've told doodi this before. I was going to give up gaming online for good, found a couple of "older gamer sites" nothing really fit. Really just happened on the site one day, and felt right at home (My home of like minded retarded humor!) Some people need to bitch... fine. But if it turn into bull shit I'm done with you.... I've been really lucky here and with the 2o4BS clan......Thanks for the new friends Doodi (2o2p)
KingBayman's picture
Submitted by KingBayman on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 14:29
+1 for saying what needed to be said -1000 for wearing a fucking Cubs hat in your picture.
LuxDraconis's picture
Submitted by LuxDraconis on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 14:30
Ps Johnny is an asshat...... But thats why we love'm
Automan21k's picture
Submitted by Automan21k on Thu, 06/26/2008 - 13:34
I may be a serious n00b to the site, and I may consider myself to be professional and serious about my gaming, this is the only site where I am accepted for my extreme aggression towards Timmys is acceptable....SYSTEMATIC ERADICATION OF ALL TIMMYS....then cake....but no ice cream....well, maby ice cream by someone esle will have to bring it because my freezer is full of frozen margaritas and something that resembles a gray sponge that has been in there longer than I've been alive....wait, what was I talking about?
Lusetti67's picture
Submitted by Lusetti67 on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 14:43
I was getting tired of online gaming with my original xbox until I found 2o2p. Yes I have ran into the intermittent ass hat here and there I am sure I have been one myself without knowing. I do it to my wife all the time. Its easy to just ignore someone who bothers you just like in real life. How about having a boxing ring at the Lan with a set of boxing gloves and all the ass hats can sock it out. I find this a lot at work where the person will send a flame e-mail but when its face to face he is as nice as pie. People have huge balls when sitting behind a keyboard .
Donk2o2p's picture
Submitted by Donk2o2p on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 14:48
"Have you made more gaming friends because of 2old2play then without it?" yes, infact my friends list is made up entirely of 2O2Pers :D "Do you have a better time when you are playing these games because of it?" yes, it's been a timmie free zone ever since i joined up here :D well, apart from doodi who is an asshat! ... ... just kidding :wink: :lol: "If the answer is yes, then 2o2p is doing its job." i'd like to say keep up the good work to all who keep this site up & running every day :D
Devonsangel's picture
Submitted by Devonsangel on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 14:54
*sniff* I feel as if a group hug is warranted. *sniff* Sorry doodi, couldn't resist.
hubristes's picture
Submitted by hubristes on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 14:55
Clans FTW!
Onesimos's picture
Submitted by Onesimos on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 15:21
Most clan fights can be described as 2 four yr olds arguing about who's daddy can beat up the other. Also -1 b/c you blog was thought out and not a complete waste of my time.
Caesar's picture
Submitted by Caesar on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 15:23
your welcome doodi 8) i figured ive been here forever i should actually do something besides be a post whore lol did you notice thats why i changed mine to match the blue lol
Lbsutke's picture
Submitted by Lbsutke on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 15:26
I am going to give you a big bear hug when I get to Chitown (well I hope to)!!! You will be able to feel the sweat from my Moobs all over your face... ewe.......did I just say that out loud...:(
Flapjaxx's picture
Submitted by Flapjaxx on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 15:47
Well said! I have not only met a ton of video game addicted clanmates (who are teh awesome), but also some amazing 2o2p friends who've become real life friends... so THANK YOU 2o2p...
DanLeCrinque's picture
Submitted by DanLeCrinque on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 16:11
Hello... Lisa has spoken... Now get back to WoW douchebag...

Carpe Diem

XSSmoke's picture
Submitted by XSSmoke on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 16:21
Dan pegged it 100%, stfu Lisa and DEE PEE ESS.
ProvingUnique's picture
Submitted by ProvingUnique on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 16:34
I enjoy loggin in and keeping up to date on the Halo Forum, Thats about all i check here. I read the Blogs(most of the time). I consider myself to be a nice guy, probably too nice of a guy(my wife says otherwise). But no matter what I mainly treat people how I would expect them to treat me. If I cannot acheive the same from them then they arent getting on my friendlist or party. All in all, I sometimes feel out of the loop when it comes down to meeting and playing alot with 2o2p'ers but truthfully it's my own fault. I try to make invites if I'm able, but I spend alot of my free time playing with my clanmates. Gaming is what you make it. p.s. I dont consider myself a Timmie, not even close. lol
Bodaget's picture
Submitted by Bodaget on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 17:47
Hello Any JC's on?
T3muJin's picture
Submitted by T3muJin on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 22:45
The comments in this blog entry make me want to fucking puke violently
twistedcaboose's picture
Submitted by twistedcaboose on Tue, 04/22/2008 - 07:45
I'm with T3.
Walladog's picture
Submitted by Walladog on Fri, 04/25/2008 - 10:16
Thanks Doodi. I have a great bunch of friends on here and really appreciate this site. While I sometimes engage in asshattery with a whiney "Timmy", I have vowed to only do so once a year. :)
DEEP_NNN's picture
Submitted by DEEP_NNN on Thu, 05/22/2008 - 14:57
Darn, I missed this Blog. I would have asked the following question. Doodi, at one time, were you of the opinion that Clans and their Forums were taking away from the 2old2play community as a whole? I ask because I got that impression at one point. This Blog post clearly states the opposite and I agree with it.

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