I'm betting who can access and who you set to "share access" might be two different things. It may be a settings thing, which if possible, would be quite cool, especially with kids, annoying siblings (no offense Kitten) and such.
IF you use your own gamertag, I still say you have to be on the "list" which I stated clearly, but then again, I think that means so you can access your own gmes on their console...
I think all this siply shows you need to be a dman lawyer, or retain one to keep it all straight, at leat until we lay hands on One and get used to it. ( see what I did there?)
I don't think if you have an Xbox Live profile yourself you'd be cut out of using someone elses games on their console. Nothing to indicate that.
I hope there are the settings you mention, so anyone and everyone who comes here can't play any game. You know, M rated games and kids is a great reason to include such a setting alone.
The family plan is a separate entity from the anyone-on-your-console bit though. It spans across multiple, defined, gamertags and across any Xbox One they use, but limits it to 10 or 11 people.
With the not requiring gold subs or guest accounts to an actual signed in account on a console, and the family plan especially, this will save a lot of money for many people. At launch, it'll save me $120 by not requiring me to buy an additional copy of two more single player games that both me and my girlfriend are interested in playing. That's more than the price difference between the consoles we saved because of the family plan.
Yeah, my problem is I have two boys and they like to play "against" Dad, so simultaneous play = two copies...and that's no different than it is now. ( beat you all to it )
I'm betting who can access and who you set to "share access" might be two different things. It may be a settings thing, which if possible, would be quite cool, especially with kids, annoying siblings (no offense Kitten) and such.
IF you use your own gamertag, I still say you have to be on the "list" which I stated clearly, but then again, I think that means so you can access your own gmes on their console...
I think all this siply shows you need to be a dman lawyer, or retain one to keep it all straight, at leat until we lay hands on One and get used to it. ( see what I did there?)
If a box has a user on it with Gold, everyone on that box can play online. Anyone on a box can play all the games on the box. In addition, anyone out of your 10 designated people can play any one of your games, anywhere - unless you're playing it.
Oldschool 2o4f wrote:
Yeah, my problem is I have two boys and they like to play "against" Dad, so simultaneous play = two copies...and that's no different than it is now. ( beat you all to it )
well yeah but........ that's the point of all of this. lol. It's like it always was, just in a different way. If you lend a disc, you can't play it. If you lend a digital copy, you can't play it.
I'm betting who can access and who you set to "share access" might be two different things. It may be a settings thing, which if possible, would be quite cool, especially with kids, annoying siblings (no offense Kitten) and such.
IF you use your own gamertag, I still say you have to be on the "list" which I stated clearly, but then again, I think that means so you can access your own games on their console...
I think all this simply shows you need to be a damn lawyer, or retain one to keep it all straight, at least until we lay hands on One and get used to it. ( see what I did there?)
If a box has a user on it with Gold, everyone on that box can play online. Anyone on a box can play all the games on the box. In addition, anyone out of your 10 designated people can play any one of your games, anywhere - unless you're playing it.
Oldschool 2o4f wrote:
Yeah, my problem is I have two boys and they like to play "against" Dad, so simultaneous play = two copies...and that's no different than it is now. ( beat you all to it )
well yeah but........ that's the point of all of this. lol. It's like it always was, just in a different way. If you lend a disc, you can't play it. If you lend a digital copy, you can't play it.
Irrelevant repuking of known crap. The point is/question asked was "can I get on my brothers box, when he's not there (on his account/his saved game) and mess with his Kill/Deaths ratio? None of what you parroted addresses that directly.
I'm betting who can access and who you set to "share access" might be two different things. It may be a settings thing, which if possible, would be quite cool, especially with kids, annoying siblings (no offense Kitten) and such.
IF you use your own gamertag, I still say you have to be on the "list" which I stated clearly, but then again, I think that means so you can access your own games on their console...
I think all this simply shows you need to be a damn lawyer, or retain one to keep it all straight, at least until we lay hands on One and get used to it. ( see what I did there?)
If a box has a user on it with Gold, everyone on that box can play online. Anyone on a box can play all the games on the box. In addition, anyone out of your 10 designated people can play any one of your games, anywhere - unless you're playing it.
Oldschool 2o4f wrote:
Yeah, my problem is I have two boys and they like to play "against" Dad, so simultaneous play = two copies...and that's no different than it is now. ( beat you all to it )
well yeah but........ that's the point of all of this. lol. It's like it always was, just in a different way. If you lend a disc, you can't play it. If you lend a digital copy, you can't play it.
Irrelevant repuking of known crap. The point is/question asked was "can I get on my brothers box, when he's not there (on his account/his saved game) and mess with his Kill/Deaths ratio? None of what you parroted addresses that directly.
Apparently I missed this post:
Oldschool 2o4f wrote:
You will have to be on his "list of friends and family" (up to 10) to use his games, if I interpret the morass of misinformation correctly. That's if you use your gamertag.
If you mean, turn it on and use his gamertag, I'm not sure. It could mean a whole new level of "grief" protection! Heck, if your voice prints incorrect, it may not even turn on at all? It has facial and voice recognition software.
But the rest of your posts are addressed in my reply. I even quoted your post. As for if someone can log in as you - I don't know. I assume so, but I don't think there is an answer to that yet.
I'm betting who can access and who you set to "share access" might be two different things. It may be a settings thing, which if possible, would be quite cool, especially with kids, annoying siblings (no offense Kitten) and such.
IF you use your own gamertag, I still say you have to be on the "list" which I stated clearly, but then again, I think that means so you can access your own games on their console...
I think all this simply shows you need to be a damn lawyer, or retain one to keep it all straight, at least until we lay hands on One and get used to it. ( see what I did there?)
If a box has a user on it with Gold, everyone on that box can play online. Anyone on a box can play all the games on the box. In addition, anyone out of your 10 designated people can play any one of your games, anywhere - unless you're playing it.
Oldschool 2o4f wrote:
Yeah, my problem is I have two boys and they like to play "against" Dad, so simultaneous play = two copies...and that's no different than it is now. ( beat you all to it )
well yeah but........ that's the point of all of this. lol. It's like it always was, just in a different way. If you lend a disc, you can't play it. If you lend a digital copy, you can't play it.
Irrelevant repuking of known crap. The point is/question asked was "can I get on my brothers box, when he's not there (on his account/his saved game) and mess with his Kill/Deaths ratio? None of what you parroted addresses that directly.
Good question. I am guessing that facial recognition might be an option to turn off or on by the owner/person with the parental rights of the box. IF that is the case and IF he does have it set to facial recognition then I would say your best bet is to get a life size picture of him and make a stand up cut out of him. You could then try to "fool the system" into turning on to jack with his kpd/last game save/progress in a game he has spent hours to obtain.
On a side note I applaud your evil genius plan,support it full heartedly and salute you sir!
LMAO Wow okay note to self: this is not your clan forum and no one here knows you well enough to know when you're joking. THE PART ABOUT MESSING UP HIS K/D WAS A JOKE!!! The rest was a real question. I do get bored watching Pirates of the Caribean or fucking storage wars, and DO disappear to play games on my brother's Xbox when he isn't around. So general consensus is probably, on his account or mine. But what if I don't have an Xbox UNO?? He will have one day 1.
LMAO Wow okay note to self: this is not your clan forum and no one here knows you well enough to know when you're joking. THE PART ABOUT MESSING UP HIS K/D WAS A JOKE!!! The rest was a real question. I do get bored watching Pirates of the Caribean or fucking storage wars, and DO disappear to play games on my brother's Xbox when he isn't around. So general consensus is probably, on his account or mine. But what if I don't have an Xbox UNO?? He will have one day 1.
As I wrote earlier and was told was incorrect, you can play games on his console even if you do not own an "Xbox UNO". It even gives you the benifits of his Xbox Live Gold subscription if he has one.
Just thought some clarification to end some rampant confusion was needed, despite me now rewriting what I had already said and explained ;)
He claims he has a girl friend too, but who am I to judge?
She's a community member here too, hmm.
Kitten, if you aren't joking with this question at least, then as I quoted and posted the link about, anyone whether they own an Xbox One or have an account with Microsoft can play your brothers games and if he has gold, use those benfits as well.
He claims he has a girl friend too, but who am I to judge?
She's a community member here too, hmm.
Kitten, if you aren't joking with this question at least, then as I quoted and posted the link about, anyone whether they own an Xbox One or have an account with Microsoft can play your brothers games and if he has gold, use those benfits as well.
That's patently false.
" anyone whether they own an Xbox One or have an account with Microsoft can play your brothers games"
Anyone he allows to, can, your statement, if correct is one hell of a breach of privacy and security. I don't care how many times you repeat it, it's still wrong.
He claims he has a girl friend too, but who am I to judge?
She's a community member here too, hmm.
Kitten, if you aren't joking with this question at least, then as I quoted and posted the link about, anyone whether they own an Xbox One or have an account with Microsoft can play your brothers games and if he has gold, use those benfits as well.
That's patently false.
" anyone whether they own an Xbox One or have an account with Microsoft can play your brothers games"
Anyone he allows to, can, your statement, if correct is one hell of a breach of privacy and security. I don't care how many times you repeat it, it's still wrong.
What I said is not false because he could allow anyone to do that. That means it is possible and not false. He could not allow access too, but that does not mean the other is impossible
What I said is true, and security and privacy things are true and possible too.
He claims he has a girl friend too, but who am I to judge?
She's a community member here too, hmm.
Kitten, if you aren't joking with this question at least, then as I quoted and posted the link about, anyone whether they own an Xbox One or have an account with Microsoft can play your brothers games and if he has gold, use those benfits as well.
That's patently false.
" anyone whether they own an Xbox One or have an account with Microsoft can play your brothers games"
Anyone he allows to, can, your statement, if correct is one hell of a breach of privacy and security. I don't care how many times you repeat it, it's still wrong.
what do you mean? Right now, anyone that is using my box can play my games. Not on my tag, but on my box. I can create a new local profile and boot up any XBLA game (registered on that system) or disc game. That's what we're talking about. The only difference on the One is that they could create a silver account and use your gold perks to play online as well.
yeah I get the kpd thing was a joke, just thought it was a brilliant plan as well.
But to try to give an answer to it the best I can do is conjecture. It has been said if you are part of "the magic 10" under his gold account you can access or play any game he has the rights to.
Or
If you have a game he does not have and you are not part of his "magic 10", but can still turn on his XB 1, you will have access to your complete library of games from his house. Due to the fact a copy of you games are stored on your XB 1 AND the cloud. So if your xb1 is disconnected from the interwebs, that is ok, because the MS cloud servers know you have the rights to a specific games so they let you play them on someone elses system. I would assume part of this would be that your GT is either stored on the cloud, stored on a flash drive you have with your or you retrieve it to the XB 1 you are about to use.
Third scenerio if he is not connected to the internet (temporarily or permanently) at the time you try to play his or your games and the facial recognition deal is on by default AND is set as do not let anyone not recognized to play my shit as default..Well then I would say your are SOL.
Not sure if I answered your questions or not, but I am confused by all the threads about this stuff as to what has been said where and such. I am old-ish and get confused easily. ;)
Thanks for the answers ...I think lol! Our middle brother has NO xbl account anymore, and does the same thing...we will test it out I guess, and make youngest bro keep the 360 til we are sure. Why does new technology have to be so hard?? *stomping feet*
Its very unclear, but may be easier than before for families. Fewer games need buying, fewer live memberships need subscribing, easier to play more games on one console, or your games/your families on any console etc...
A lot needs clearing up, sure, but the most difficult part about this console is finding factual official information :P
Its very unclear, but may be easier than before for families. Fewer games need buying, fewer live memberships need subscribing, easier to play more games on one console, or your games/your families on any console etc...
A lot needs clearing up, sure, but the most difficult part about this console is finding factual official information :P
True! "Back in the good old days" I used to bring my Xbox over there. I strapped it into the car and called it The Precious. The OG XBOX was so easy ...just swap a few cables from his Xbox to mine. Ah. The good old days....wait..where's my soup? Who are you?
Its very unclear, but may be easier than before for families. Fewer games need buying, fewer live memberships need subscribing, easier to play more games on one console, or your games/your families on any console etc...
A lot needs clearing up, sure, but the most difficult part about this console is finding factual official information :P
True! "Back in the good old days" I used to bring my Xbox over there. I strapped it into the car and called it The Precious. The OG XBOX was so easy ...just swap a few cables from his Xbox to mine. Ah. The good old days....wait..where's my soup? Who are you?
Now you just strap yourself in the car (Seatbelts!) and go play your games, his games, family games on his console. No need to bring your console, or your games. :)
I giive up. Keep your blinders, I don't care. No where was it said "he could allow", the whole pint was she was sneaking into his room and using his box, his account, without his knowledge, and playing AS him.
Now, whether you get it, you don't, or you think I don't, know this, I don't care. As my buddies over the pond say, piss off.
Until one of you, any of you have one plugged in and can show me video footage, you're all guessing or drinking too much of the kool aid.
I giive up. Keep your blinders, I don't care. No where was it said "he could allow", the whole pint was she was sneaking into his room and using his box, his account, without his knowledge, and playing AS him.
Now, whether you get it, you don't, or you think I don't, know this, I don't care. As my buddies over the pond say, piss off.
Until one of you, any of you have one plugged in and can show me video footage, you're all guessing or drinking too much of the kool aid.
wtf dude. The statements aren't clear. I'm responding to what I think you're asking, and apparently you're asking a different thing. "your brother's games" to me means the games on the box that he bought. Not "his XBL gamertag."
However, as it stands currently I always auto-login, so anyone who boots up my 360 can play on my tag, because that's how it logs in.
I giive up. Keep your blinders, I don't care. No where was it said "he could allow", the whole pint was she was sneaking into his room and using his box, his account, without his knowledge, and playing AS him.
Now, whether you get it, you don't, or you think I don't, know this, I don't care. As my buddies over the pond say, piss off.
Until one of you, any of you have one plugged in and can show me video footage, you're all guessing or drinking too much of the kool aid.
I don't get what your point is. Can someone today use an Xbox 360 to play a persons games on their account without them knowing? Yes. There are settings to disable this too.
Can someone play on an Xbox One a persons games with or without being logged into the owners account? Yes, but there will be settings there too.
Despite whatever angered you, this doesn't change that what I said is correct and possible. It is possible also to restrict it too, just like today.
I can let anyone eat my bowl of soup. I can choose to eat it myself. Having the ability to eat it myself doesn't mean it is impossible for someone else to eat it instead.
I guess if you have a point, make it, but don't claim something is incorrect through illogical reasons please.
Privacy settings are confirmed, manual or automatic sign in settings are confirmed, and I can link you to the page on xbox.com if you want.
This however does NOT mean the other page that says what I've repeatedly quoted is "patently false". It just means users have control over what they allow.
Repeated but continuously ignored quote: Anyone can play your games on your console--regardless of whether you are logged in or their relationship to you.
The point was, you obviously didn't read Kittens post, but felt the need to regurgitate everything that's been said before anyway, regardless of whether it was appropriate or on the subject. As such, it wasn't and truly, I don't care what your opinion is on it at this point. It isn't germane, or Randy, or even Michael...
But does that address who can turn your box on?
People with fingers capable of pushing buttons I suppose.
The guide button on a controller today, became the Xbox button on the new controller. Its not just a glowy logo.
I'm betting who can access and who you set to "share access" might be two different things. It may be a settings thing, which if possible, would be quite cool, especially with kids, annoying siblings (no offense Kitten) and such.
IF you use your own gamertag, I still say you have to be on the "list" which I stated clearly, but then again, I think that means so you can access your own gmes on their console...
I think all this siply shows you need to be a dman lawyer, or retain one to keep it all straight, at leat until we lay hands on One and get used to it. ( see what I did there?)
I see what you did there.
I don't think if you have an Xbox Live profile yourself you'd be cut out of using someone elses games on their console. Nothing to indicate that.
I hope there are the settings you mention, so anyone and everyone who comes here can't play any game. You know, M rated games and kids is a great reason to include such a setting alone.
The family plan is a separate entity from the anyone-on-your-console bit though. It spans across multiple, defined, gamertags and across any Xbox One they use, but limits it to 10 or 11 people.
With the not requiring gold subs or guest accounts to an actual signed in account on a console, and the family plan especially, this will save a lot of money for many people. At launch, it'll save me $120 by not requiring me to buy an additional copy of two more single player games that both me and my girlfriend are interested in playing. That's more than the price difference between the consoles we saved because of the family plan.
Yeah, my problem is I have two boys and they like to play "against" Dad, so simultaneous play = two copies...and that's no different than it is now. ( beat you all to it
)
If a box has a user on it with Gold, everyone on that box can play online. Anyone on a box can play all the games on the box. In addition, anyone out of your 10 designated people can play any one of your games, anywhere - unless you're playing it.
well yeah but........ that's the point of all of this. lol. It's like it always was, just in a different way. If you lend a disc, you can't play it. If you lend a digital copy, you can't play it.
Irrelevant repuking of known crap. The point is/question asked was "can I get on my brothers box, when he's not there (on his account/his saved game) and mess with his Kill/Deaths ratio? None of what you parroted addresses that directly.
Apparently I missed this post:
But the rest of your posts are addressed in my reply. I even quoted your post. As for if someone can log in as you - I don't know. I assume so, but I don't think there is an answer to that yet.
Good question. I am guessing that facial recognition might be an option to turn off or on by the owner/person with the parental rights of the box. IF that is the case and IF he does have it set to facial recognition then I would say your best bet is to get a life size picture of him and make a stand up cut out of him. You could then try to "fool the system" into turning on to jack with his kpd/last game save/progress in a game he has spent hours to obtain.
On a side note I applaud your evil genius plan,support it full heartedly and salute you sir!
If you know someones username and password, sure you can compromise their account and mess with their stuff.
If you are their identical twin with the same voice print, maybe then too!
Who knows though. I don't see a reason why it would be -less- secure than today with Xbox 360 auto sign in stuff.
While I admire your appreciation and public support, I fear you may damage my reputation...
LMAO Wow okay note to self: this is not your clan forum and no one here knows you well enough to know when you're joking. THE PART ABOUT MESSING UP HIS K/D WAS A JOKE!!! The rest was a real question. I do get bored watching Pirates of the Caribean or fucking storage wars, and DO disappear to play games on my brother's Xbox when he isn't around. So general consensus is probably, on his account or mine. But what if I don't have an Xbox UNO?? He will have one day 1.
As I wrote earlier and was told was incorrect, you can play games on his console even if you do not own an "Xbox UNO". It even gives you the benifits of his Xbox Live Gold subscription if he has one.
Just thought some clarification to end some rampant confusion was needed, despite me now rewriting what I had already said and explained ;)
Oh and he NEVER has PWs or anything like that. He is, and I quote "too lazy for that shit."
Umm, you do know, we're all joking around too right, except maybe LB...but I doubt it.
He claims he has a girl friend too, but who am I to judge?
She's a community member here too, hmm.
Kitten, if you aren't joking with this question at least, then as I quoted and posted the link about, anyone whether they own an Xbox One or have an account with Microsoft can play your brothers games and if he has gold, use those benfits as well.
That's patently false.
" anyone whether they own an Xbox One or have an account with Microsoft can play your brothers games"
Anyone he allows to, can, your statement, if correct is one hell of a breach of privacy and security. I don't care how many times you repeat it, it's still wrong.
What I said is not false because he could allow anyone to do that. That means it is possible and not false. He could not allow access too, but that does not mean the other is impossible
What I said is true, and security and privacy things are true and possible too.
Make sense?
what do you mean? Right now, anyone that is using my box can play my games. Not on my tag, but on my box. I can create a new local profile and boot up any XBLA game (registered on that system) or disc game. That's what we're talking about. The only difference on the One is that they could create a silver account and use your gold perks to play online as well.
yeah I get the kpd thing was a joke, just thought it was a brilliant plan as well.
But to try to give an answer to it the best I can do is conjecture. It has been said if you are part of "the magic 10" under his gold account you can access or play any game he has the rights to.
Or
If you have a game he does not have and you are not part of his "magic 10", but can still turn on his XB 1, you will have access to your complete library of games from his house. Due to the fact a copy of you games are stored on your XB 1 AND the cloud. So if your xb1 is disconnected from the interwebs, that is ok, because the MS cloud servers know you have the rights to a specific games so they let you play them on someone elses system. I would assume part of this would be that your GT is either stored on the cloud, stored on a flash drive you have with your or you retrieve it to the XB 1 you are about to use.
Third scenerio if he is not connected to the internet (temporarily or permanently) at the time you try to play his or your games and the facial recognition deal is on by default AND is set as do not let anyone not recognized to play my shit as default..Well then I would say your are SOL.
Not sure if I answered your questions or not, but I am confused by all the threads about this stuff as to what has been said where and such. I am old-ish and get confused easily. ;)
Thanks for the answers ...I think lol! Our middle brother has NO xbl account anymore, and does the same thing...we will test it out I guess, and make youngest bro keep the 360 til we are sure. Why does new technology have to be so hard?? *stomping feet*
Its very unclear, but may be easier than before for families. Fewer games need buying, fewer live memberships need subscribing, easier to play more games on one console, or your games/your families on any console etc...
A lot needs clearing up, sure, but the most difficult part about this console is finding factual official information :P
Now you just strap yourself in the car (Seatbelts!) and go play your games, his games, family games on his console. No need to bring your console, or your games. :)
Soup sounds good, might do Chili's for lunch.
I giive up. Keep your blinders, I don't care. No where was it said "he could allow", the whole pint was she was sneaking into his room and using his box, his account, without his knowledge, and playing AS him.
Now, whether you get it, you don't, or you think I don't, know this, I don't care. As my buddies over the pond say, piss off.
Until one of you, any of you have one plugged in and can show me video footage, you're all guessing or drinking too much of the kool aid.
wtf dude. The statements aren't clear. I'm responding to what I think you're asking, and apparently you're asking a different thing. "your brother's games" to me means the games on the box that he bought. Not "his XBL gamertag."
However, as it stands currently I always auto-login, so anyone who boots up my 360 can play on my tag, because that's how it logs in.
I don't get what your point is. Can someone today use an Xbox 360 to play a persons games on their account without them knowing? Yes. There are settings to disable this too.
Can someone play on an Xbox One a persons games with or without being logged into the owners account? Yes, but there will be settings there too.
Despite whatever angered you, this doesn't change that what I said is correct and possible. It is possible also to restrict it too, just like today.
I can let anyone eat my bowl of soup. I can choose to eat it myself. Having the ability to eat it myself doesn't mean it is impossible for someone else to eat it instead.
I guess if you have a point, make it, but don't claim something is incorrect through illogical reasons please.
Privacy settings are confirmed, manual or automatic sign in settings are confirmed, and I can link you to the page on xbox.com if you want.
This however does NOT mean the other page that says what I've repeatedly quoted is "patently false". It just means users have control over what they allow.
Sorry!
Edit of obviously impossible nature -
Privacy and sign in settings page - http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/privacy
License page - http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/license
Repeated but continuously ignored quote: Anyone can play your games on your console--regardless of whether you are logged in or their relationship to you.
The point was, you obviously didn't read Kittens post, but felt the need to regurgitate everything that's been said before anyway, regardless of whether it was appropriate or on the subject. As such, it wasn't and truly, I don't care what your opinion is on it at this point. It isn't germane, or Randy, or even Michael...