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Gamersuggestions.com's Survey Results

3210 results were put into this.  More info here: http://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/19xihh/halo_4_community_infographic/

Fri, 03/08/2013 - 23:20
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But it sold a lot so it must be good! Obviously people are just complaining to complain and there's nothing wrong with the game.
Fri, 03/08/2013 - 23:38
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RIP Halo 4

Sat, 03/09/2013 - 07:06
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I love Halo 4. I really do. I kinda feel bad for people who just like slayer though because Infinity Slayer is fun, but not something I can play game after game.

The poll is fun to look at, but alot of the suggestions won't ever happen. They would be better of focusing on the thing that could be changed. Things like, DMR fix, BTB objective, normal slayer mode(not barebones just not IS) ect. 

Sat, 03/09/2013 - 07:24
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Not worth my time to look at on another site and not worth my time to look at here. I may have even read someone on NeoGAF suggest the questions were leading and obviously entrenched in one camp. NeoGAF has been especially vitriolic about Halo 4 too. The survey is worthless internet tripe by self entitled butt hurt youth (cry babies).

Sat, 03/09/2013 - 08:28 (Reply to #5)
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DEEP_NNN wrote:

Not worth my time to look at on another site and not worth my time to look at here. I may have even read someone on NeoGAF suggest the questions were leading and obviously entrenched in one camp. NeoGAF has been especially vitriolic about Halo 4 too. The survey is worthless internet tripe by self entitled butt hurt youth (cry babies).

I'm pretty sure I took the survey.  It was pretty openly-worded, where you could insert, in your own words, the things you wanted to see, so it wasn't biased in that respect.  

I can understand not wnting to click the link and read, though.  That takes energy, and pom pons don't just wave themselves.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 18:43 (Reply to #6)
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DEEP_NNN wrote:

The survey is worthless internet tripe by self entitled butt hurt youth (cry babies).

 

Dixon_Tufar wrote:

I'm pretty sure I took the survey.

Thank you.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 12:21 (Reply to #7)
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DEEP_NNN wrote:

Not worth my time to look at on another site and not worth my time to look at here. I may have even read someone on NeoGAF suggest the questions were leading and obviously entrenched in one camp. NeoGAF has been especially vitriolic about Halo 4 too. The survey is worthless internet tripe by self entitled butt hurt youth (cry babies).

 

I just don't get you man.  Here is a community actually trying to give the equivalent of a developmental roadmap on the direction that we as consumers of the product want it to go.  It is not ditasteful, flamming, or belligerent, in any way yet you insist on being a cheerleader for whatever 343 want s to do, by bashing the opinions of other FANS by calling them "Cry babies." 

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 13:45 (Reply to #8)
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DEEP_NNN wrote:

Not worth my time to look at on another site and not worth my time to look at here. I may have even read someone on NeoGAF suggest the questions were leading and obviously entrenched in one camp. NeoGAF has been especially vitriolic about Halo 4 too. The survey is worthless internet tripe by self entitled butt hurt youth (cry babies).

 

I just don't get you man.  Here is a community actually trying to give the equivalent of a developmental roadmap on the direction that we as consumers of the product want it to go.  It is not ditasteful, flamming, or belligerent, in any way yet you insist on being a cheerleader for whatever 343 want s to do, by bashing the opinions of other FANS by calling them "Cry babies." 

I understand why you might be confused on my stance, but be assured I am a huge Halo fan. I am niether a huge Bungie nor 343i fan. I am not their cheerleader but I also don't like to see unreasonable or uniformed attacks against a developer. You have seen me speak out when I feel I have refuting evidence. I do not like pig piling. The survey is nothing new to me at all. I've seen the same sort of thing on several sites before and after each of Halo 3, REACH and Halo 4. I repeat, it has nothing new for me. So I think it is just another unscientific dumb ass forum poll. So what? My opinion does not diminsh the proposed effect on 343i. Dixon dropped it in here and I say poo poo. He does the same thing when I drop something in the forum. 343i does want to hear what people have to say and they have said the best place to air concerns in on Waypoint.So that is what I recommend. Want to make a difference? Tell 343i what you want on Waypoint and walk away.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 15:44 (Reply to #9)
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DEEP_NNN wrote:

FR_ISH_1371 wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

Not worth my time to look at on another site and not worth my time to look at here. I may have even read someone on NeoGAF suggest the questions were leading and obviously entrenched in one camp. NeoGAF has been especially vitriolic about Halo 4 too. The survey is worthless internet tripe by self entitled butt hurt youth (cry babies).

 

I just don't get you man.  Here is a community actually trying to give the equivalent of a developmental roadmap on the direction that we as consumers of the product want it to go.  It is not ditasteful, flamming, or belligerent, in any way yet you insist on being a cheerleader for whatever 343 want s to do, by bashing the opinions of other FANS by calling them "Cry babies." 

I understand why you might be confused on my stance, but be assured I am a huge Halo fan. I am niether a huge Bungie nor 343i fan. I am not their cheerleader but I also don't like to see unreasonable or uniformed attacks against a developer. You have seen me speak out when I feel I have refuting evidence. I do not like pig piling. The survey is nothing new to me at all. I've seen the same sort of thing on several sites before and after each of Halo 3, REACH and Halo 4. I repeat, it has nothing new for me. So I think it is just another unscientific dumb ass forum poll. So what? My opinion does not diminsh the proposed effect on 343i. Dixon dropped it in here and I say poo poo. He does the same thing when I drop something in the forum. 343i does want to hear what people have to say and they have said the best place to air concerns in on Waypoint.So that is what I recommend. Want to make a difference? Tell 343i what you want on Waypoint and walk away.

But if it was scientific, would you listen?

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 16:05 (Reply to #10)
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But if it was scientific, would you listen?

That day has to come. Is everyone going to wait around and see if I will or won't? I'm not worth the wait.

I suggest people just keep on playing Halo, if it's their fancy. It's a Hell of a lot more fun for most of us than these damn forums or waiting to find out what I think about something.

Forums suck and opinions in forums suck. When forums serve to communicate and organize when to play, it serves best. That's what is important. All this other stuff just gets in the way.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 16:42 (Reply to #11)
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DEEP_NNN wrote:

Hoplite wrote:

But if it was scientific, would you listen?

That day has to come. Is everyone going to wait around and see if I will or won't? I'm not worth the wait.

I suggest people just keep on playing Halo, if it's their fancy. It's a Hell of a lot more fun for most of us than these damn forums or waiting to find out what I think about something.

Forums suck and opinions in forums suck. When forums serve to communicate and organize when to play, it serves best. That's what is important. All this other stuff just gets in the way.

So why continue to have the forum at all?  I xfire still around or whatever it was?  The app that let you tell what others were playing?  Kind of like facebook or twitter for games...

 

Just saying :D

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 17:09 (Reply to #12)
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DEEP_NNN wrote:

Hoplite wrote:

But if it was scientific, would you listen?

That day has to come. Is everyone going to wait around and see if I will or won't? I'm not worth the wait.

I suggest people just keep on playing Halo, if it's their fancy. It's a Hell of a lot more fun for most of us than these damn forums or waiting to find out what I think about something.

Forums suck and opinions in forums suck. When forums serve to communicate and organize when to play, it serves best. That's what is important. All this other stuff just gets in the way.

 

So, the fingers get plugged in the ears and gibberish gets spouted when people have opinions that run contrary to anything other than playing the game and ignoring any flaws or providing any criticism, constructive or otherwise?

 

See, I feel the exact opposite.  Sure, there's some crap to sort through, with regards to noise, but the more testers you have in a game, before or after release, the better it is for everyone.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 17:23 (Reply to #13)
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Dixon_Tufar wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

Hoplite wrote:

But if it was scientific, would you listen?

That day has to come. Is everyone going to wait around and see if I will or won't? I'm not worth the wait.

I suggest people just keep on playing Halo, if it's their fancy. It's a Hell of a lot more fun for most of us than these damn forums or waiting to find out what I think about something.

Forums suck and opinions in forums suck. When forums serve to communicate and organize when to play, it serves best. That's what is important. All this other stuff just gets in the way.

 

So, the fingers get plugged in the ears and gibberish gets spouted when people have opinions that run contrary to anything other than playing the game and ignoring any flaws or providing any criticism, constructive or otherwise?

 

See, I feel the exact opposite.  Sure, there's some crap to sort through, with regards to noise, but the more testers you have in a game, before or after release, the better it is for everyone.

 

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 17:43 (Reply to #14)
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OMGaLaserPewPew wrote:

Dixon_Tufar wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

Hoplite wrote:

But if it was scientific, would you listen?

That day has to come. Is everyone going to wait around and see if I will or won't? I'm not worth the wait.

I suggest people just keep on playing Halo, if it's their fancy. It's a Hell of a lot more fun for most of us than these damn forums or waiting to find out what I think about something.

Forums suck and opinions in forums suck. When forums serve to communicate and organize when to play, it serves best. That's what is important. All this other stuff just gets in the way.

 

So, the fingers get plugged in the ears and gibberish gets spouted when people have opinions that run contrary to anything other than playing the game and ignoring any flaws or providing any criticism, constructive or otherwise?

 

See, I feel the exact opposite.  Sure, there's some crap to sort through, with regards to noise, but the more testers you have in a game, before or after release, the better it is for everyone.

 

 

I'll be perfectly honest with you: I had that exact scene pop up in my head when I was typing the first couple of sentences out.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 17:53 (Reply to #15)
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Dixon_Tufar wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

Hoplite wrote:

But if it was scientific, would you listen?

That day has to come. Is everyone going to wait around and see if I will or won't? I'm not worth the wait.

I suggest people just keep on playing Halo, if it's their fancy. It's a Hell of a lot more fun for most of us than these damn forums or waiting to find out what I think about something.

Forums suck and opinions in forums suck. When forums serve to communicate and organize when to play, it serves best. That's what is important. All this other stuff just gets in the way.

 

So, the fingers get plugged in the ears and gibberish gets spouted when people have opinions that run contrary to anything other than playing the game and ignoring any flaws or providing any criticism, constructive or otherwise?

 

See, I feel the exact opposite.  Sure, there's some crap to sort through, with regards to noise, but the more testers you have in a game, before or after release, the better it is for everyone.

Let me repeat. Got a problem, report it to the developer. They have asked for just that. In here all we really can do is agree and disagree with each other. Disagreement usually gets negative real quick. It isn't fun. Negativity breeds negativity. Dumb polls are usually set up by people with a beef and are leading in nature. A lot of people who respond to them agree with the lead and hop on for the ride. It's no surprise is it? A bunch of like minded poeple are attracted by the same interest  and are fed a poll. The outcome is predictable. These polls are completely unbalanced and considering how important balance is to FPS players you'd think they'd want a better way to represent their opinion. I don't agree with these silly polls even when I like the direction they are going in. I think playing a game for fun and competition is a much better solution than sitting around and bitching with abolutely no idea if the bitching will lead to anything other than feeling rotten. Almost everthing negative that could have been said about this game has been said. What point is there to dwell on it here?

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Sat, 03/09/2013 - 09:51 (Reply to #17)
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Dixon_Tufar wrote:

Also, official response: http://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHalo/comments/19xzy6/halo_4_community_infographic_xpost_rhalo/c8sgzar

Political firefighting/posturing. Of course 343i is going to pander to them a bit. They probably even care but I highly doubt anything will come of it that wasn't already in the works. You said it yourself. "trust us".

Visible 0-50 is not a game improvement. That's just powdering diapers.

Custom game servers will not change the game and has been consistantly refused by Bungie and 343i.

Nerf the DMR and etc. Stupid stupid. I see highly skilled players argue for and against this and similar issues. There isn't a common desire. It's a non-starter and won't change the game dramatically and won't bring back population. The internet skillz crowd like to think they are united in their convictions for Halo but their only commonality is that they are unhappy. If allowed to determine a real change they would never agree on much of anything.

It's just another stupid unscientific survey. How do I know it sampled from all of the potential Halo community?

 

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i dont have much of a history with this game, as this is the first one ive gotten into but i wouldnt mind seeing the aim-assist on the dmr lowered and unstickying the plasma nades, ive quite literally seen them do a U-turn in mid-air. the red-X representing someone that just died wouldnt hurt either. other than these few minor things, i dont have any other issues with the game.

Sat, 03/09/2013 - 12:06 (Reply to #19)
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MTPathy wrote:

i dont have much of a history with this game, as this is the first one ive gotten into but i wouldnt mind seeing the aim-assist on the dmr lowered and unstickying the plasma nades, ive quite literally seen them do a U-turn in mid-air. the red-X representing someone that just died wouldnt hurt either. other than these few minor things, i dont have any other issues with the game.

The plasma U-turns are as much about latency as they are about stickiness. In my opinion the Halo 4 plasmas are less sticky than in previous titles but I've never seen proper evidence one way or the other.

Though I don't notice it much, the X sometimes shows in your radar. Perhaps not a good enough solution but it's something.

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DEEP_NNN wrote:

MTPathy wrote:

i dont have much of a history with this game, as this is the first one ive gotten into but i wouldnt mind seeing the aim-assist on the dmr lowered and unstickying the plasma nades, ive quite literally seen them do a U-turn in mid-air. the red-X representing someone that just died wouldnt hurt either. other than these few minor things, i dont have any other issues with the game.

The plasma U-turns are as much about latency as they are about stickiness. In my opinion the Halo 4 plasmas are less sticky than in previous titles but I've never seen proper evidence one way or the other.

Though I don't notice it much, the X sometimes shows in your radar. Perhaps not a good enough solution but it's something.

i have plasmas stick someone then immediately fall off the guy and land near him. It may be a latency thing and it just LOOKS like it sticks then falls off, I dunno. In Reach, stickies occasionally went THROUGH people lol. 

 

The only time the tiny green X on radar helps me is if a team mate and I are creepin around the same area, and he dies without saying anything. As for helping with the "on my X" callout, I find it useless. But that's just me. I still really miss the X on the map. Especially if someone dies in an odd spot between callouts, or they don't know the callout. By the time they say "there's a guy with Incineration halfway between the ramp and...." the IC guy has sprinted off.

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I agree that they fucked up by removing the "red x" on dead teammates.  Pretty hard to tell where the fight is going on 90% of the time unless you know where your teammates are most of the time anyways.

Sat, 03/09/2013 - 13:09 (Reply to #22)
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Double T wrote:

I agree that they fucked up by removing the "red x" on dead teammates.  Pretty hard to tell where the fight is going on 90% of the time unless you know where your teammates are most of the time anyways.

 

343 removed what they considered minor details from previous halo titles so they could put their own stamp on the halo franchise.  Too bad those 'minor' details had huge impacts on how well the game plays.

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OMGaLaserPewPew wrote:

Double T wrote:

I agree that they fucked up by removing the "red x" on dead teammates.  Pretty hard to tell where the fight is going on 90% of the time unless you know where your teammates are most of the time anyways.

 

343 removed what they considered minor details from previous halo titles so they could put their own stamp on the halo franchise.  Too bad those 'minor' details had huge impacts on how well the game plays.

The red x did not have a huge effect on the game. Your player has a name over his head and if it disappears they are dead. 

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LegendcalledJim wrote:

OMGaLaserPewPew wrote:

Double T wrote:

I agree that they fucked up by removing the "red x" on dead teammates.  Pretty hard to tell where the fight is going on 90% of the time unless you know where your teammates are most of the time anyways.

 

343 removed what they considered minor details from previous halo titles so they could put their own stamp on the halo franchise.  Too bad those 'minor' details had huge impacts on how well the game plays.

The red x did not have a huge effect on the game. Your player has a name over his head and if it disappears they are dead. 

True, but they also removed the color on the tag changing yellow if firing at someone, and red if taking damage.  Those were very helpful things to know.  The red x also helped, and since these maps are fucking huge...it is very difficult to keep an eye on teammates all the time.

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LegendcalledJim wrote:

OMGaLaserPewPew wrote:

Double T wrote:

I agree that they fucked up by removing the "red x" on dead teammates.  Pretty hard to tell where the fight is going on 90% of the time unless you know where your teammates are most of the time anyways.

 

343 removed what they considered minor details from previous halo titles so they could put their own stamp on the halo franchise.  Too bad those 'minor' details had huge impacts on how well the game plays.

The red x did not have a huge effect on the game. Your player has a name over his head and if it disappears they are dead. 

In a game where no one communicates, it's quite important and does affect the game. I'm also not sure how you can be looking at every person on your team all of the time. The red X lingered for a second or two giving you fair warning. Once again, it was a system and mechanic that worked fine, why remove it?

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What bothers me isn't the stuff 343 did, it's what they opted not to do. Grifball doesn't play right, there's no 1 flag, no multi team, no big team objective, no red X on death, no damn flat grass to Forge on, no easy to read friend menu on the main menu, no easily accessable stats. It's all stuff we had and they chose to take away for no reason.

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Not to mention no way to tell what gametypes friends are playing and when they are searching.  There's no easy way to match friends now.  Reach was great in that regard.

Sat, 03/09/2013 - 23:39 (Reply to #28)
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OMGaLaserPewPew wrote:

Not to mention no way to tell what gametypes friends are playing and when they are searching.  There's no easy way to match friends now.  Reach was great in that regard.

 

Shit, Halo 2 was still great at it, and that was a console ago.

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I'd like to point out that at launch, several people said we would all be "over" the menu issues in a few weeks. A LOT of people I play with still hate it and complain daily lol. It frustrates me to know I may be bugging someone with invites when they may be in a full party. Btw, for me, it's become WORSE. When someone is in a party over 8, when I click on their name to see how many they have in their party, it says "1". If they're with mutual friends I can see those people. I KNOW they're not alone. But it tells me they are and only shows the GT of the person I click on. Thus making clan night a pain in the ass.

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zombiekitten wrote:

I'd like to point out that at launch, several people said we would all be "over" the menu issues in a few weeks. A LOT of people I play with still hate it and complain daily lol. It frustrates me to know I may be bugging someone with invites when they may be in a full party. Btw, for me, it's become WORSE. When someone is in a party over 8, when I click on their name to see how many they have in their party, it says "1". If they're with mutual friends I can see those people. I KNOW they're not alone. But it tells me they are and only shows the GT of the person I click on. Thus making clan night a pain in the ass.

Yeah, it makes Thursday night site wide just that little bit more difficult to manage. I just spam a bit now to save time.

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