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#1 Wed, 03/20/2013 - 20:33
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Halo 4: Next TU will be discussed at PAX. (New Forge Island coming - FREE)

From David Ellis on NeoGAF. 

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You'll all be knee deep in TU info by the end of this weekend. Perhaps a couple of you will even offer their own impressions...

Wed, 03/20/2013 - 21:15
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Depends.  Are they going to poll the same focus group that got us these awesome, huge maps?

Wed, 03/20/2013 - 21:40
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I'm hearing hints of something big in Forge being mentioned on Friday. The rest is a mystery to me. Narrowing of the skill gap maybe? No hints about film rendering though.

Thu, 03/21/2013 - 00:12 (Reply to #3)
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Well, then we might as well just trade the game in if the already small skill gap is even that much more compressed.

Thu, 03/21/2013 - 06:09 (Reply to #4)
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Dixon_Tufar wrote:

Well, then we might as well just trade the game in if the already small skill gap is even that much more compressed.

Nah. It's probably as compressed as much as it's ever going to be right now. The sandbox just needs a little tweaking here and there..

Thu, 03/21/2013 - 08:01 (Reply to #5)
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...Narrowing of the skill gap maybe? ...

Did you perhaps mean "expanding" the skill gap? I think H4's skill gap is sufficiently narrow (yes, there's a mom joke here) - loadouts, armor abilities and personal ordinance have seen to that in H4. 

Granted, to have a well-rounded skill gap, you need people to play the game - lots and lots of people.

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DarthTabasco wrote:

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...Narrowing of the skill gap maybe? ...

Did you perhaps mean "expanding" the skill gap? I think H4's skill gap is sufficiently narrow (yes, there's a mom joke here) - loadouts, armor abilities and personal ordinance have seen to that in H4. 

Granted, to have a well-rounded skill gap, you need people to play the game - lots and lots of people.

I was teasing Dixon. Sorry. I think the skill gap and sandbox are a pretty good match right now. Opinions will differ.

Thu, 03/21/2013 - 08:49
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If they do anything to narrow the skill gap anymore, I'll be done with the game.
Fri, 03/22/2013 - 00:08
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A little more fleshing out of details/speculation:

http://youtu.be/J7GAxj9BaFg

Fri, 03/22/2013 - 06:38 (Reply to #9)
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Dixon_Tufar wrote:

A little more fleshing out of details/speculation:

Nice info vid.So far BE has been less toxic towards Halo 4 even though some of the same people were more so previously.

Fri, 03/22/2013 - 11:09 (Reply to #10)
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DEEP_NNN wrote:

Dixon_Tufar wrote:

A little more fleshing out of details/speculation:

Nice info vid.So far BE has been less toxic towards Halo 4 even though some of the same people were more so previously.

LEAVE HALO 4 ALONE!!!!

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Where's my speed flag...

Fri, 03/22/2013 - 16:28 (Reply to #12)
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Where's my speed flag...

Lightning Flag is a bit of a replacement. Next week maybe.

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Some tweet tidbits from nsuduncan.

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New forge map!

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  1. 2m

    Tweaks are not universal, but can be. Action sack gametypes mentioned.

     
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    They can adjust the scorpion tank cannon damage.

     
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    In addition to damage, they can tweak rate of fire.

     
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  4. 4m

    Live gameplay demo of weapon tweaks. Incineration cannon does zero damage, plasma pistol is instakill (just showing off).

     
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  5. 6m

    Bravo clearly doesn't like camo campers.

     
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  6. 8m

    Title update time! Launching within 1-2 weeks.

     
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  7. 9m

    If you haven't played a particular playlist, you aren't 1. You just don't have a rank.

     
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  8. 10m

    CSR shows on your player card in the Waypoint app on 360.

     
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    1-50 for each playlist on Waypoint. Even grifball. Game stats show your level at the time of that game.

     
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    CSR mentioned.

     
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    Multiteam out April 8th with the map pack.

     
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    Multiteam coming back according to Kevin. 6 teams of 2.

     
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    Outcast is a Dominion map.

     
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    Mantis on one side, Wraith on the other.

     
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    Tom is talking about Outcast now. It's the largest of the 3 maps.

     
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    Daybreak has the highest feedback score from internal testing of any Halo 4 map.

     
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    One base is round, the other square. Both have a sniper, hog, and Mongoose.

     
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    Tom Potter talking about Daybreak. Map has a Banshee and a RL.

     
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    Castle map pack trailer.

     
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    Fiesta gametype will be updated next month.

     
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    Showed an internal video clip of a Mantis/Pulse Grenade bug from before launch. Floating ball of death!

     
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    They're using community screenshots for this stats presentation.

     
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    11.7 billion kills. 388 million headshots.

     
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    They're showing War Games stats. 11.6 million people have played.

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Looks like I might get to rebuild Stonehenge in a better spot.

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    It's big! Three islands, all flat.

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FREE!  I'm yanking already!

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    Map is free, out in April 11.

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Hey Dixon. I do believe 343i and CA are the greatest bunch of people and developers ever. EVAR! ;)

Fri, 03/22/2013 - 23:28 (Reply to #17)
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Hey Dixon. I do believe 343i and CA are the greatest bunch of people and developers ever. EVAR! ;)

 

Whoa, watch those wrists.  Don't go breaking them, thanking them for stuff that should have been included months aro.

Sat, 03/23/2013 - 07:07 (Reply to #18)
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Dixon_Tufar wrote:

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Hey Dixon. I do believe 343i and CA are the greatest bunch of people and developers ever. EVAR! ;)

 

Whoa, watch those wrists.  Don't go breaking them, thanking them for stuff that should have been included months aro.

I have an arthritic index finger that suffered a bit.

Sat, 03/23/2013 - 08:52 (Reply to #19)
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DEEP_NNN wrote:

Dixon_Tufar wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

Hey Dixon. I do believe 343i and CA are the greatest bunch of people and developers ever. EVAR! ;)

 

Whoa, watch those wrists.  Don't go breaking them, thanking them for stuff that should have been included months aro.

I have an arthritic index finger that suffered a bit.

 

You should probably wraap it, and then apply liberal amounts of Halo 3 to it to help with any swelling.

Sat, 03/23/2013 - 09:09 (Reply to #20)
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Dixon_Tufar wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

Dixon_Tufar wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

Hey Dixon. I do believe 343i and CA are the greatest bunch of people and developers ever. EVAR! ;)

 

Whoa, watch those wrists.  Don't go breaking them, thanking them for stuff that should have been included months aro.

I have an arthritic index finger that suffered a bit.

 

You should probably wraap it, and then apply liberal amounts of Halo 3 to it to help with any swelling.

Yeah, that'd probably work. At least I got a map in MM in Halo 3.

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I think they can shove their BTB and actually make smaller maps.  Basically we are going to be forged to death in the end of ANOTHER halo game.  More grey is not success.

Fri, 03/22/2013 - 21:34 (Reply to #22)
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Double T wrote:

I think they can shove their BTB and actually make smaller maps.  Basically we are going to be forged to death in the end of ANOTHER halo game.  More grey is not success.

I haven't seen the palette yet. I hope it is something better than grey. I also have hopes for something better than what is on Ravine.

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2 players per team in multiteam? Smh. Why not go back to Reach's success with 4 teams of 3? 343 can't even get multiteam right.
Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:02 (Reply to #24)
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2 players per team in multiteam? Smh. Why not go back to Reach's success with 4 teams of 3? 343 can't even get multiteam right.
To be fair, they've had two man teams in Multi-Team before. On Halo 2 and in Halo 3. I think it plays better with 2 man teams. Less random nades being thrown around. Less chaos.
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Halo Council recap of Halo 4 PAX Panel.

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Halo Council recap of Halo 4 PAX Panel.

 

Below is the copied info from their breakdown:

 

Competitive Skill Ranking

  • You will have a 1-50 ranking in every single playlist, including Grifball! 
  • CSR is still exclusive to Halo Waypoint – shows up on the Xbox & Website!
  • If you haven’t played a playlist, you will won’t have a rank compared to previous Halo’s where you were automatically a rank 1
  • CSR may be reset after a long period of time to prevent account selling and ‘rank locking’, similar to Arena from Halo: Reach

 

Forge & Forge Island

  • Forge Island is a brand new Forge environment releasing on April 11th for FREE
  • Forge Island is a HUGE flat land map, there are three areas, one large flat area, one medium flat area and a small flat area, the whole map has a ton of space in the sky
  • The maps aesthetics is extremely similar to Ravine, an on-disc Forge environment
  • Forge Island is big enough to have a Hang ‘Em High remake and a Blood Gulch remake
  • No planned improvements for Forge such as Precision Editing, focus going into future titles for Forge

 

Title Update

  • The Title Update is expected to be released within the next two weeks
  • The panel had a video displaying what the Title Update can do, for example, an Incineration cannon that does no damage while the
    rest of the weapon sandbox goes untouched – these changes can be applied universally or singularly
  • Other changes that the new TU will allow is damage changes, rate of fire changes
  • Legendary Slayer with tuned weapons coming in Summer (more info below)
  • Weapon descoping will not be happening
  • Hold X to pick up the Flag isn’t being discussed, but it possible
  • A DMR rebalance is being looked at
  • Vehicle tweaks are possible with the newest Title Update

 

Matchmaking Updates & Changes

  • Multi-Team will be returning on April 8th with the Castle Map Pack with the classic SIX teams of TWO setup
  • Fiesta in Team Action Sack will be getting tweaked in the future
  • Legendary Slayer is a Throwdown & Infinity mix with competitive in mind, it’ll feature tweaked weapons and is launching in late Spring/early Summer
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I'm glad multiteam is coming back. I think Halo3 had 2 players and 6 teams. The new forge will be exciting and to be free is great. I hope this mean they have a workable forge map that will work in MM with little screen lag. Its nice to see 343 sticking with the game.

Why do you guys even bother with Halo anymore or these forums. It is what it is. I would love to see people talking about map strategies or how to use weapons, but ever time someone posts something the trolls come out and just shit on them. Halo4 isn't perfect, but none of the Halos were.

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LegendcalledJim wrote:

Why do you guys even bother with Halo anymore or these forums. It is what it is. I would love to see people talking about map strategies or how to use weapons, but ever time someone posts something the trolls come out and just shit on them. Halo4 isn't perfect, but none of the Halos were.

I think part of the problem is the lack of community content  and that is on 343i. Lack of web filesharing, campaign and spartan ops films plus no film render capabilty hobbled the community. It made Clan nights a multi day event since the resulting vids carried on the activity afterwards. Tbag and clench flag caps vids for example. Positive activities are missing and it makes the negativity even worse. I don't agree that frequent bitching helps our enjoyment in this forum at all but I don't own this site. If I could, I'd create a bitch list where you could sign your discontent for a game issue and then never be allowed to raise the issue again. We could link to the list on sites like Waypoint. It could act as 2old2play's enumerated statements about a game.

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DEEP_NNN wrote:

LegendcalledJim wrote:

Why do you guys even bother with Halo anymore or these forums. It is what it is. I would love to see people talking about map strategies or how to use weapons, but ever time someone posts something the trolls come out and just shit on them. Halo4 isn't perfect, but none of the Halos were.

I think part of the problem is the lack of community content  and that is on 343i. Lack of web filesharing, campaign and spartan ops films plus no film render capabilty hobbled the community. It made Clan nights a multi day event since the resulting vids carried on the activity afterwards. Tbag and clench flag caps vids for example. Positive activities are missing and it makes the negativity even worse. I don't agree that frequent bitching helps our enjoyment in this forum at all but I don't own this site. If I could, I'd create a bitch list where you could sign your discontent for a game issue and then never be allowed to raise the issue again. We could link to the list on sites like Waypoint. It could act as 2old2play's enumerated statements about a game.

I don't have a problem with people complain or pointing out flaws I like to debate on how to make the game better, but make your point and be done. I get upset at things too and would like to see some changes that we will not see, but this community needs more postive posts because not everyone hates this game some of us really like it. I know a fair amount of people on this site who stay away from public forums because of the complaining and I'm sure it has scared away new members as well.

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LegendcalledJim wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

LegendcalledJim wrote:

Why do you guys even bother with Halo anymore or these forums. It is what it is. I would love to see people talking about map strategies or how to use weapons, but ever time someone posts something the trolls come out and just shit on them. Halo4 isn't perfect, but none of the Halos were.

I think part of the problem is the lack of community content  and that is on 343i. Lack of web filesharing, campaign and spartan ops films plus no film render capabilty hobbled the community. It made Clan nights a multi day event since the resulting vids carried on the activity afterwards. Tbag and clench flag caps vids for example. Positive activities are missing and it makes the negativity even worse. I don't agree that frequent bitching helps our enjoyment in this forum at all but I don't own this site. If I could, I'd create a bitch list where you could sign your discontent for a game issue and then never be allowed to raise the issue again. We could link to the list on sites like Waypoint. It could act as 2old2play's enumerated statements about a game.

I don't have a problem with people complain or pointing out flaws I like to debate on how to make the game better, but make your point and be done. I get upset at things too and would like to see some changes that we will not see, but this community needs more postive posts because not everyone hates this game some of us really like it. I know a fair amount of people on this site who stay away from public forums because of the complaining and I'm sure it has scared away new members as well.

Well, can't have it both ways. To have it open like you want is what we have and negativity will often be the theme, even for a good game. I'd choose a more restrictive approach but I have no say in the matter. HBO owner Louis Wu is getting pissed at repetitive negativity and chewing a few people out. NeoGAF/HaloGAF had the privledge of Frankie and David Ellis posting there but they have taken a vacation from the meaness of the comments, which are all too often by non-Halo 4 players.The internet is a wonderful and yet horrible place. I hate forums now yet here I am. A different kind of troll.

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