Gamespot Article - 343i Re-inventing Halo

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Gamespot Article - 343i Re-inventing Halo

A few new tidbits.

Spartan Ops' first season will span weeks not months.

More people are still playing campaign than online multiplayer. It's important we never forget this detail.

Want to know about 3D or Kinect? Get your read on.smiley

http://www.gamespot.com/features/how-343-is-reinventing-halo-6373407/?tag=Topslot%3bReinventingHalo%3bHow343IsReinventingHa

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I found the follow quote to be curious:

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The Spartan Ops story will stretch out for several weeks, but not months, according to O'Connor. And beyond that? "Season one comes free with the game. If we did another season we would be building that from scratch. Maybe that will be DLC; maybe it goes in the next game. We are still tinkering with that."

The initial impression I had of Spartan Ops was one of continuous seasons. Certainly not just one seaon of "several weeks". There has to be more to this if it's supposed to take the place of Firefight. Plus, 343 has made it a point that we can level up up our players in Spartan Ops and then take them into matchmaking with our new unlocks. This mode has to have some staying power to keep people playing if part of it's purpose is to encourage people to try matchmaking.

We still have a lot to learn about Spartan Ops, but this is the first piece of info on this mode I've seen that causes me some concern.

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DarthTabasco wrote:

I found the follow quote to be curious:

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The Spartan Ops story will stretch out for several weeks, but not months, according to O'Connor. And beyond that? "Season one comes free with the game. If we did another season we would be building that from scratch. Maybe that will be DLC; maybe it goes in the next game. We are still tinkering with that."

The initial impression I had of Spartan Ops was one of continuous seasons. Certainly not just one seaon of "several weeks". There has to be more to this if it's supposed to take the place of Firefight. Plus, 343 has made it a point that we can level up up our players in Spartan Ops and then take them into matchmaking with our new unlocks. This mode has to have some staying power to keep people playing if part of it's purpose is to encourage people to try matchmaking.

We still have a lot to learn about Spartan Ops, but this is the first piece of info on this mode I've seen that causes me some concern.

My concern is as follows.

Cost vs playability.

If it works well, I'll pay a reasonable price for more campaign. I've always wanted the feature and was always willing to pay for it.

How it affects player progression, I do not know. I suspect Spartan Ops season 1 will not be a one and done deal for earning new features. You'll probably have the typical Normal/Heroic/Legendary difficulty levels and each will earn more or less credits.

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interesting read, i'd be willing to pay a reasonable cost to continue the experience if its a quality mode...

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DEEP_NNN wrote:

A few new tidbits.

Spartan Ops' first season will span weeks not months.

More people are still playing campaign than online multiplayer.[b] It's important we never forget this detail.[/b]

Want to know about 3D or Kinect? Get your read on.smiley

http://www.gamespot.com/features/how-343-is-reinventing-halo-6373407/?tag=Topslot%3bReinventingHalo%3bHow343IsReinventingHa

 

Bolding mine. 

 

Hopefully that can be mitigated or reversed.  I feel confident that a more competitive Halo game can help bridge that gap.  Hell, you can be casual by yourself in single player campaign.  You don't need Live to be casual.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

/verymildlybeingajerk

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Dixon_Tufar wrote:

/verymildlybeingajerk

 

 

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Dixon_Tufar wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

A few new tidbits.

Spartan Ops' first season will span weeks not months.

More people are still playing campaign than online multiplayer.[b] It's important we never forget this detail.[/b]

Want to know about 3D or Kinect? Get your read on.smiley

http://www.gamespot.com/features/how-343-is-reinventing-halo-6373407/?tag=Topslot%3bReinventingHalo%3bHow343IsReinventingHa

 

Bolding mine. 

 

Hopefully that can be mitigated or reversed.  I feel confident that a more competitive Halo game can help bridge that gap.  Hell, you can be casual by yourself in single player campaign.  You don't need Live to be casual.

/verymildlybeingajerk

Very mild indeed.

I really do hope that Halo 4 becomes the most competitive Halo title ever. I mean that in the broadest terms too. I want more competitions to spring up at the lower skilled levels. If that happens then the professional levels will evolve and prosper.

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DEEP_NNN wrote:

Dixon_Tufar wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

A few new tidbits.

Spartan Ops' first season will span weeks not months.

More people are still playing campaign than online multiplayer.[b] It's important we never forget this detail.[/b]

Want to know about 3D or Kinect? Get your read on.smiley

http://www.gamespot.com/features/how-343-is-reinventing-halo-6373407/?tag=Topslot%3bReinventingHalo%3bHow343IsReinventingHa

 

Bolding mine. 

 

Hopefully that can be mitigated or reversed.  I feel confident that a more competitive Halo game can help bridge that gap.  Hell, you can be casual by yourself in single player campaign.  You don't need Live to be casual.

/verymildlybeingajerk

Very mild indeed.

I really do hope that Halo 4 becomes the most competitive Halo title ever. I mean that in the broadest terms too. I want more competitions to spring up at the lower skilled levels. If that happens then the professional levels will evolve and prosper.

 

There are competitions at lower levels, at least on 2old2play.  Those are called clan matches and mixers.

 

Honestly, I'm not sure the bolded part can be quite fixed in this generation.  It'll take more moderation and fewer Timmies out there.  Some folks, and this part confounds me, play with randoms.  It's like they know of social networking and when it comes to networking for a game to play online, they're completely clueless about finding some folks.

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Dixon_Tufar wrote:

There are competitions at lower levels, at least on 2old2play.  Those are called clan matches and mixers.

What I meant was something like Minor League Gaming. Smaller more regional competitions that have a small payout and are also part of a bigger more global competitive process. If they exists now in any way, I am suggesting even more of them.

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DEEP_NNN wrote:

Dixon_Tufar wrote:

There are competitions at lower levels, at least on 2old2play.  Those are called clan matches and mixers.

What I meant was something like Minor League Gaming. Smaller more regional competitions that have a small payout and are also part of a bigger more global competitive process. If they exists now in any way, I am suggesting even more of them.

 

That's called Xbox Live.  That's called LAN parties.  You're looking for a solution in search of a problem.

 

There's also the 90-9-1 principle.  Think that might apply?

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Dixon_Tufar wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

Dixon_Tufar wrote:

There are competitions at lower levels, at least on 2old2play.  Those are called clan matches and mixers.

What I meant was something like Minor League Gaming. Smaller more regional competitions that have a small payout and are also part of a bigger more global competitive process. If they exists now in any way, I am suggesting even more of them.

 

That's called Xbox Live.  That's called LAN parties.  You're looking for a solution in search of a problem.

Well actually what I was looking for was something more like I just learned about. MLG Game Battles. Pay to play and reward the winners. The key is to get more people to play. If it isn't working well enough, why isn't it and get it fixed.

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DEEP_NNN wrote:

Dixon_Tufar wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

Dixon_Tufar wrote:

There are competitions at lower levels, at least on 2old2play.  Those are called clan matches and mixers.

What I meant was something like Minor League Gaming. Smaller more regional competitions that have a small payout and are also part of a bigger more global competitive process. If they exists now in any way, I am suggesting even more of them.

 

That's called Xbox Live.  That's called LAN parties.  You're looking for a solution in search of a problem.

Well actually what I was looking for was something more like I just learned about. MLG Game Battles. Pay to play and reward the winners. The key is to get more people to play. If it isn't working well enough, why isn't it and get it fixed.

 

Sign up for MLG Game Battles, then.

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Dixon_Tufar wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

Dixon_Tufar wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

Dixon_Tufar wrote:

There are competitions at lower levels, at least on 2old2play.  Those are called clan matches and mixers.

What I meant was something like Minor League Gaming. Smaller more regional competitions that have a small payout and are also part of a bigger more global competitive process. If they exists now in any way, I am suggesting even more of them.

 

That's called Xbox Live.  That's called LAN parties.  You're looking for a solution in search of a problem.

Well actually what I was looking for was something more like I just learned about. MLG Game Battles. Pay to play and reward the winners. The key is to get more people to play. If it isn't working well enough, why isn't it and get it fixed.

 

Sign up for MLG Game Battles, then.

Maybe that will happen someday, when these online competitions becomes something I play and not something relatively unfamiliar.

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DEEP_NNN wrote:

Dixon_Tufar wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

Dixon_Tufar wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

Dixon_Tufar wrote:

There are competitions at lower levels, at least on 2old2play.  Those are called clan matches and mixers.

What I meant was something like Minor League Gaming. Smaller more regional competitions that have a small payout and are also part of a bigger more global competitive process. If they exists now in any way, I am suggesting even more of them.

 

That's called Xbox Live.  That's called LAN parties.  You're looking for a solution in search of a problem.

Well actually what I was looking for was something more like I just learned about. MLG Game Battles. Pay to play and reward the winners. The key is to get more people to play. If it isn't working well enough, why isn't it and get it fixed.

 

Sign up for MLG Game Battles, then.

Maybe that will happen someday, when these online competitions becomes something I play and not something relatively unfamiliar.

Well, you can't bitch about there not being anything for this, and then not want it when it is there.  I mean, I get that it's MLG gametypes and maps, but I thought it was important that the community at large succeed, not just the community you want to succeed.

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Dixon_Tufar wrote:

Well, you can't bitch about there not being anything for this, and then not want it when it is there.  I mean, I get that it's MLG gametypes and maps, but I thought it was important that the community at large succeed, not just the community you want to succeed.

I think I fallen off the rails on the direction this topic is going. This statement might be the problem.


What I meant was something like Minor League Gaming. Smaller more regional competitions that have a small payout and are also part of a bigger more global competitive process. If they exists now in any way, I am suggesting even more of them.

I am not talking about what I want to do personally but rather what the Halo community needs for professional competition to grow beyond what it is. For that you need Little League, Bantam League, Pony League etc. These leagues should be regional in nature such that there is a stronger chance of audience identification and attachment to the players. The higher the players they know rise through the ranks the more they want to watch.

Before I started to go off topic I hadn't the benefit of watching the Penny Arcade video on pro gaming or the knowledge that GameBattles is having paid competitions. Maybe that's where this discussion belongs now. To say nothing of me being confused right now.

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i'll be very dissapointed if it is just a few weeks. if it's DLC, that's ok. then you can take it or leave it, but at least it's there.

 

this isn't the type of game mode i'm interested in, but i do like the idea of it.

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