I am no sim guru, nor do I really care about the whole physics debate. I was just pointing out what was different between the physics of pcars and fm4. And to be honest I don't know how powerful the xbox1 and ps4 are and if any of the physics or certain features will all make it into the console build so it was a bit of an unfair comparison on my behalf. I also have no idea what fm6 has in store for us?
What matters the most to me is that it feels good, have good content and have sim like race features and options. Most of all may it be fm6/pcars or gt6/7 whatever there next title is :)
I hope one of those titles can recreate the excitement and build this community back up to what it was during the old days of fm2/3 and 4
For the 3 yrs I've been gone from consoles, and out of all the available pc racing titles and leagues I've joined.....not one has even compared to the fun times I had here!
@ snappy, I ran across a thread on the wmd forum in regards to videos being posted on YouTube of pcars content.....A bit anal but one of the members has taken it upon himself to scower the Internet searching for content infringements and reporting it to sms. Not sure if your videos posted here fall under This? Plus I'd hate to see you get in trouble for them so you might wanna remove them or set to private and pm people so it's not public?
http://forum.wmdportal.com/showthread.php?20985-Track-Licensing-Violatio...
Here is a look at the menus and some of the options. The game isn't finished yet so you may see some "coming soon" areas. Enjoy and let me know if you have a specific request.
Wow Snappy...that is pretty detailed adjustments on this game...That kinda blew me away......Are you planning on getting it for Xbone or staying on the PC??...I dont know what I want to do....I can go either way....I like the Xbox communtiy for sure..never messed around much on the PC
@Kat - I have a full rig set-up with triple screens so I will probably go PC only at first. Triple screens makes a huge difference. I will eventually get the Xbone version as well since I bought that on day one. I I'm guessing that all of those wheel set up options will be in the console versions. I can't see them taking any of that stuff out. What's really cool about pCARS is the fact that tuning is applied to both sides of the car and front/rear all seperately. Never seen that in a racing game before.
Back to physics. They are very good. More overall grip than Forza but not so much that it feels too easy. The other thing I noticed is that the tires react to temperature change very noticably. I did a race that transitioned from day to night and my braking distances changed. I think it was becasue of the temperature drop. I will be doing a race and posting another video later today.
Also, keep in mind that the graphics in this game are rediculous. I am limited by the Graphics Card that I have so I don't have every feature turned up. From what I understand, the console versions will have the graphics maxed out at 1080p running at 60fps. Stunning, just stunning.
Thanks to Snappy mentioning this on another thread I thought I would drop by and see what's what. Like Kurrupt though to a lesser degree I have been testing this game for some time. Now as he will tell you I was no fan of it for a long time, I found they had a strange habit of releasing content that just wasn't close to being worth testing so I'd just install an update, shrug and wait. Well the last build I tested was much better, it will never be my racing sim of choice but as a replacement for Forza it does a great job and it would be nice to get back on track with some of my old Forza buddies. Physics is better than Forza, well 4 at least and it is all about racing. It is not, I repeat not, Need for Speed or Shift so disabuse yourself of any thoughts in that direction.
Is it the best race sim out there? In my opinion, and that is all it is...No. Is it the best overall replacement for Forza type games? Without a doubt, there has been enough movement in what I would think of as pure sim elements, and adds to that a good career mode, good online play and awards and stuff, and a step up in the eye candy dept.
So if your on the fence...I'd say take the plunge, if you were a fan of Forza there is no reason at all you won't enjoy pCars.
So I'll keep my eyes open here, I will be PC only so any races at a time I can join in, just give a shout over the PC racing section and I'll happily sit in.
I.ve been racing PCARS since it came out on beta.I will also be playing it on PC. Same reason as Snappy.There seem to be a problem with in car veiw. It seem very shaded and the dash blurs out when hitting the breaks. Maybe Dave or Snappy can shead some light on a fix. When in bumper veiw everything is bright and very clear. In the incar veiw its like driving at dusk. I have fiddled around with the ingame grafix settings, but didnt do anything. I have nvidia inspector. Maybe I need to adjust some settings there. Dave. I could use your help there. Thanks. Greg
I.ve been racing PCARS since it came out on beta.I will also be playing it on PC. Same reason as Snappy.There seem to be a problem with in car veiw. It seem very shaded and the dash blurs out when hitting the breaks. Maybe Dave or Snappy can shead some light on a fix. When in bumper veiw everything is bright and very clear. In the incar veiw its like driving at dusk. I have fiddled around with the ingame grafix settings, but didnt do anything. I have nvidia inspector. Maybe I need to adjust some settings there. Dave. I could use your help there. Thanks. Greg
Like snappy said there are 2 cockpit views and the one that blurs is the helmet cam. Ive been testing that view all week actually and found its an excellent learning tool for someone trying weed of of using corner/braking markers and very well done.
Basically how i saw it....when your about to prepare to brake and enter a corner the onboard camerawill zone in directly ahead, this phase is very subtle and is where you wanna start to break.
Phase 2 the camera will start to look to the apex....this is where you want to start your tun in.
They had this feature in shift 2 and i thought it was one of there strongest features, with pcars they have just built on it and made it better. If you really want to make things exciting go into the camer options and increase gforce and world movement to 100. tied in with the ffb it reallygives you an idea of what the car is doing.....tho not for everyone as it can be a bit disorientating at first :) I havent tried yet but you might be able to eliminate some of the blur by turning motion blur off?
As for the dark cockpits i have this issue too and its a bug by using ingame msaa and high AA settings.
trying using x2 or x4 multisampling in the nvidia control panel and set settings to overide ingame settings...ingame leave off if thats the case.
Todays build broke the default Fanatec settings and a graphical bug as well.
Remeber after installing a daily build to delete your pcars folder in my documents, so that you insure all the proper content and fixes :)
EDIT: I just tested helet cam with motion blur and depth of helmet off and there is no blur and looks really good!
@Rusty-there are actually two different cockpit views. The first one is a regular cockpit view. I never see any blurring when I drive using that view. The second is "helmet view". I've noticed that this view has the "look to apex feature" that can be adjusted by the user. If you watch the video I posted above and skip to the 9:50 mark you will see it in there. I've noticed that helmet cam has a vignette effect that is permanent and I've also noticed that when racing, some of the items in your peripheral view (like mirrors and instruments) get blurred when you are entering a turn. They stay blurred until you've made it through the apex and are back on a straight. Then you will notice that the mirrors and your instruments come back into focus. It's a little off putting until you realize what it's doing. They are trying to simulate the whole drivers view. It's pretty detailed. I will post a video so you can see what I mean. This may be what is happening to you. Try cycling through the different camera views. Hope this helps.
I've never done that Kurupt. Should I uninstall my pCars and do a fresh install?
No need to uninstall, you will have 2 pcars folders in your pc....1 in your steam common folder which is your core game.
The 2nd is your graphics and controller files etc. this is the one you want to delete every day after a new update.
the folder should be located in C:/Users/YourName/Documents/Project Cars
After deleting this file you will have to enter your log in info and reconfigure your whell, buttons, and graphic settings. You will also lose any career modes that you started.
This was a GT4 "Quick Race" that I set up for 8 or 10 laps. I was trying to chase down two Aston Martins at Watkins Glen. The grid order was set to random an I was starting 2nd. I get a poor start but manage to hold on to 3rd and stay close enough to the leader to at least have a chance to catch them. Then I get involved in a fight with the lead Aston Martin. It was intense, to say the least.
Also, I set it to start at 8:00 am with some fog and had it transition to mostly cloudy conditions. The time progression was set to X15 so it was about 10:00am (roughly) when the race finished.
If the video is too long for you just skip to the 8 minute mark and watch what the Aston Martin does from there on. Particularly at the 9:50 mark. The AI are unbeleivable in this SIM/Game.
Downloaded the latest build yesterday and drove the clio. The cockpit veiw was much cleaner looking. Maybe it was the gt3 car I was driving that had such a shaded veiw. Also having a lot of fun running the formala rookie car in career.
I'm interested in pre ordering the limited edition for the xb one, but the U.S. sites ( Amazon, Best buy and gamestop) only show the standard edition. Am I missing something?
I'm interested in pre ordering the limited edition for the xb one, but the U.S. sites ( Amazon, Best buy and gamestop) only show the standard edition. Am I missing something?
Unfortunatly there isnt a LE in the US for the Counsouls....But on the PC if you preorder you get some sort of car pack
I'm interested in pre ordering the limited edition for the xb one, but the U.S. sites ( Amazon, Best buy and gamestop) only show the standard edition. Am I missing something?
Unfortunatly there isnt a LE in the US for the Counsouls....But on the PC if you preorder you get some sort of car pack
I'm interested in pre ordering the limited edition for the xb one, but the U.S. sites ( Amazon, Best buy and gamestop) only show the standard edition. Am I missing something?
Unfortunatly there isnt a LE in the US for the Counsouls....But on the PC if you preorder you get some sort of car pack
Its my understanding the LE is only for people across the pond...not US. But word is they MIGHT have offer something if you pre-order. I went in my local Gamestop and the guy hasn't even heard of Project Cars and normaly this guy is pretty on top of things...I have to say the public information about this game has been slim to none. I havne't even seen a comercial about the game..so my advice is to pre-order and see what happens....
I'm interested in pre ordering the limited edition for the xb one, but the U.S. sites ( Amazon, Best buy and gamestop) only show the standard edition. Am I missing something?
Unfortunatly there isnt a LE in the US for the Counsouls....But on the PC if you preorder you get some sort of car pack
Its my understanding the LE is only for people across the pond...not US. But word is they MIGHT have offer something if you pre-order. I went in my local Gamestop and the guy hasn't even heard of Project Cars and normaly this guy is pretty on top of things...I have to say the public information about this game has been slim to none. I havne't even seen a comercial about the game..so my advice is to pre-order and see what happens....
I'm interested in pre ordering the limited edition for the xb one, but the U.S. sites ( Amazon, Best buy and gamestop) only show the standard edition. Am I missing something?
Unfortunatly there isnt a LE in the US for the Counsouls....But on the PC if you preorder you get some sort of car pack
Its my understanding the LE is only for people across the pond...not US. But word is they MIGHT have offer something if you pre-order. I went in my local Gamestop and the guy hasn't even heard of Project Cars and normaly this guy is pretty on top of things...I have to say the public information about this game has been slim to none. I havne't even seen a comercial about the game..so my advice is to pre-order and see what happens....
We interupt your regularly scheduled programming for this light hearted public service announcement...early on in the video when he pulls into the parking spot you just know it's going to be fantastic!
[edit] - I guess you get to see the parking spot before the video starst DOH!
That Elite will feel like a different beast on PC Poidsly, unpack it and slide down that slippery slope :)
I agree with the comment above when I had my Elite and used it for the first time on my PC it was like having a completely new wheel in front of me . Like Dr. Frankenstein once said , "IT'S ALIVE , IT'S ALIVE !"
Just pre ordered my xbox one copy from amazon. I've been testing this sim like crazy. Here are two more videos for you guys. The physics are great! All my testing has been with my thrustmaster tx wheel. I have no idea what it's like with a game pad.
Thanks Kurupt. Will do. When we racing?
Here is a look at the menus and some of the options. The game isn't finished yet so you may see some "coming soon" areas. Enjoy and let me know if you have a specific request.
http://youtu.be/rfoRYU8jeC0
Video is private.
Try it now.
Wow Snappy...that is pretty detailed adjustments on this game...That kinda blew me away......Are you planning on getting it for Xbone or staying on the PC??...I dont know what I want to do....I can go either way....I like the Xbox communtiy for sure..never messed around much on the PC
@Kat - I have a full rig set-up with triple screens so I will probably go PC only at first. Triple screens makes a huge difference. I will eventually get the Xbone version as well since I bought that on day one. I I'm guessing that all of those wheel set up options will be in the console versions. I can't see them taking any of that stuff out. What's really cool about pCARS is the fact that tuning is applied to both sides of the car and front/rear all seperately. Never seen that in a racing game before.
Back to physics. They are very good. More overall grip than Forza but not so much that it feels too easy. The other thing I noticed is that the tires react to temperature change very noticably. I did a race that transitioned from day to night and my braking distances changed. I think it was becasue of the temperature drop. I will be doing a race and posting another video later today.
Also, keep in mind that the graphics in this game are rediculous. I am limited by the Graphics Card that I have so I don't have every feature turned up. From what I understand, the console versions will have the graphics maxed out at 1080p running at 60fps. Stunning, just stunning.
Thanks to Snappy mentioning this on another thread I thought I would drop by and see what's what. Like Kurrupt though to a lesser degree I have been testing this game for some time. Now as he will tell you I was no fan of it for a long time, I found they had a strange habit of releasing content that just wasn't close to being worth testing so I'd just install an update, shrug and wait. Well the last build I tested was much better, it will never be my racing sim of choice but as a replacement for Forza it does a great job and it would be nice to get back on track with some of my old Forza buddies. Physics is better than Forza, well 4 at least and it is all about racing. It is not, I repeat not, Need for Speed or Shift so disabuse yourself of any thoughts in that direction.
Is it the best race sim out there? In my opinion, and that is all it is...No. Is it the best overall replacement for Forza type games? Without a doubt, there has been enough movement in what I would think of as pure sim elements, and adds to that a good career mode, good online play and awards and stuff, and a step up in the eye candy dept.
So if your on the fence...I'd say take the plunge, if you were a fan of Forza there is no reason at all you won't enjoy pCars.
So I'll keep my eyes open here, I will be PC only so any races at a time I can join in, just give a shout over the PC racing section and I'll happily sit in.
I.ve been racing PCARS since it came out on beta.I will also be playing it on PC. Same reason as Snappy.There seem to be a problem with in car veiw. It seem very shaded and the dash blurs out when hitting the breaks. Maybe Dave or Snappy can shead some light on a fix. When in bumper veiw everything is bright and very clear. In the incar veiw its like driving at dusk. I have fiddled around with the ingame grafix settings, but didnt do anything. I have nvidia inspector. Maybe I need to adjust some settings there. Dave. I could use your help there. Thanks. Greg
Like snappy said there are 2 cockpit views and the one that blurs is the helmet cam. Ive been testing that view all week actually and found its an excellent learning tool for someone trying weed of of using corner/braking markers and very well done.
Basically how i saw it....when your about to prepare to brake and enter a corner the onboard camerawill zone in directly ahead, this phase is very subtle and is where you wanna start to break.
Phase 2 the camera will start to look to the apex....this is where you want to start your tun in.
They had this feature in shift 2 and i thought it was one of there strongest features, with pcars they have just built on it and made it better. If you really want to make things exciting go into the camer options and increase gforce and world movement to 100. tied in with the ffb it reallygives you an idea of what the car is doing.....tho not for everyone as it can be a bit disorientating at first :) I havent tried yet but you might be able to eliminate some of the blur by turning motion blur off?
As for the dark cockpits i have this issue too and its a bug by using ingame msaa and high AA settings.
trying using x2 or x4 multisampling in the nvidia control panel and set settings to overide ingame settings...ingame leave off if thats the case.
Todays build broke the default Fanatec settings and a graphical bug as well.
Remeber after installing a daily build to delete your pcars folder in my documents, so that you insure all the proper content and fixes :)
EDIT: I just tested helet cam with motion blur and depth of helmet off and there is no blur and looks really good!
@Rusty-there are actually two different cockpit views. The first one is a regular cockpit view. I never see any blurring when I drive using that view. The second is "helmet view". I've noticed that this view has the "look to apex feature" that can be adjusted by the user. If you watch the video I posted above and skip to the 9:50 mark you will see it in there. I've noticed that helmet cam has a vignette effect that is permanent and I've also noticed that when racing, some of the items in your peripheral view (like mirrors and instruments) get blurred when you are entering a turn. They stay blurred until you've made it through the apex and are back on a straight. Then you will notice that the mirrors and your instruments come back into focus. It's a little off putting until you realize what it's doing. They are trying to simulate the whole drivers view. It's pretty detailed. I will post a video so you can see what I mean. This may be what is happening to you. Try cycling through the different camera views. Hope this helps.
-Snappy
I've never done that Kurupt. Should I uninstall my pCars and do a fresh install?
No need to uninstall, you will have 2 pcars folders in your pc....1 in your steam common folder which is your core game.
The 2nd is your graphics and controller files etc. this is the one you want to delete every day after a new update.
the folder should be located in C:/Users/YourName/Documents/Project Cars
After deleting this file you will have to enter your log in info and reconfigure your whell, buttons, and graphic settings. You will also lose any career modes that you started.
Thank Dave. I will try those settings later today. I forgot about the deleting the pcar file. My career seems to start over after every build.
Crazy battle with the AI. Yes, the freakin' AI!
This was a GT4 "Quick Race" that I set up for 8 or 10 laps. I was trying to chase down two Aston Martins at Watkins Glen. The grid order was set to random an I was starting 2nd. I get a poor start but manage to hold on to 3rd and stay close enough to the leader to at least have a chance to catch them. Then I get involved in a fight with the lead Aston Martin. It was intense, to say the least.
Also, I set it to start at 8:00 am with some fog and had it transition to mostly cloudy conditions. The time progression was set to X15 so it was about 10:00am (roughly) when the race finished.
If the video is too long for you just skip to the 8 minute mark and watch what the Aston Martin does from there on. Particularly at the 9:50 mark. The AI are unbeleivable in this SIM/Game.
http://youtu.be/E84s-hvdTo4
IIm getting it for PC and Xbox One. Hoping the majority of 2old4forza members will be getting on the Xbone.
Downloaded the latest build yesterday and drove the clio. The cockpit veiw was much cleaner looking. Maybe it was the gt3 car I was driving that had such a shaded veiw. Also having a lot of fun running the formala rookie car in career.
I'm interested in pre ordering the limited edition for the xb one, but the U.S. sites ( Amazon, Best buy and gamestop) only show the standard edition. Am I missing something?
Unfortunatly there isnt a LE in the US for the Counsouls....But on the PC if you preorder you get some sort of car pack
Its my understanding the LE is only for people across the pond...not US. But word is they MIGHT have offer something if you pre-order. I went in my local Gamestop and the guy hasn't even heard of Project Cars and normaly this guy is pretty on top of things...I have to say the public information about this game has been slim to none. I havne't even seen a comercial about the game..so my advice is to pre-order and see what happens....
Thanks for the info Kurupt.
We interupt your regularly scheduled programming for this light hearted public service announcement...early on in the video when he pulls into the parking spot you just know it's going to be fantastic!
[edit] - I guess you get to see the parking spot before the video starst DOH!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT1KW2tWD4I#t=132
LOL, funny stuff. I wonder if his gaff on the (yellow) Porsche which was really a convertible Audi TT was part of his whole shtick...
So torn.
Built a PC rig for Elite Dangerous and it looks like this finally looks like it might feed my racing bug. 1\2 of us on PC and the others on xbone.
Still have my fanatec elite. Packaged and ready to sell, but this .....what to do?
No way can I buy an xbone and wheel. Just blew a lot of cash on some ski's.
Might just have to go with PC first up, and if it really hits the spot.......
That Elite will feel like a different beast on PC Poidsly, unpack it and slide down that slippery slope :)
I agree with the comment above when I had my Elite and used it for the first time on my PC it was like having a completely new wheel in front of me . Like Dr. Frankenstein once said , "IT'S ALIVE , IT'S ALIVE !"
Just pre ordered my xbox one copy from amazon. I've been testing this sim like crazy. Here are two more videos for you guys. The physics are great! All my testing has been with my thrustmaster tx wheel. I have no idea what it's like with a game pad.
Lotus 98T - 5 lap race against AI at Imola
http://youtu.be/k-f_Wuks1x0
Ford Mk. IV - hot lap at Imola
http://youtu.be/1teu3Hwn268
Snappy - that move by the AI at the 9:50 mark was awesome - that was very surprising to see...i am getting excited.
Any idea if you can buy tunes from others in pCars? I am hopless at building and tuning...