[FM4] NASA AIX SERIES THURSDAY NIGHT - [FINISHED]

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[FM4] NASA AIX SERIES THURSDAY NIGHT - [FINISHED]

So I've been a fan of the Nasa AIX series since it was started so that's going to be the new Thursday night series

 

Cars built or available in the US from 1960 to 2002 that are muscle/pony cars are eliglbe. I WILL UPDATE WITH ALL AVAILABLE CARS LATER TODAY-BASICALLY NO VETTES/VIPERS

So like that says that includes a bunch of cars. For sake of our discussion a Camaro or Mustang normally classified as a coupe' is a sedan by the NASA AIX rules.

EDIT SEE NEXT POST FOR ELIGIBLE CARS

 

PI limit is going to be S630. This is to allow a little more power than an A600.

 

Required Parts in your build:

Race Weight Reduction

Race roll cage and chassis reinforcement

Race Tires

Race Clutch

Race Transmission

Forza Rear Aero (you are not required to run Forza Aero in front)

 Other than that the build is open. Way to many cars are available making spec builds impossible, and I HOPE that part of the fun is in building and tuning your own unique car.

Also please do something with the paint. Keep in mind this is a grassroots type series so please try to see that theme carried over in the paints. There are no Castrol, sponsored cars for example.

 

 

I'll add more info on the AIX series, throw up some pictures of some of the cars, put up a track list, and post a few builds/tunes on my storefront.

 


NOTE that the 2010 Camaro and new Challenger is NOT eligible for this race series.

 

 

 

If you pick a car that is a DLC car please post which one in advance so that everyone can make sure they have the free car from that pack to avoid the VW showing up.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 08:32
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ELIGIBLE CARS:

AMC

1971Javelin-AMX

 

Buick

1970GSXD 301American Muscle Car Pack
1987Regal GNXC 4

 

 

Chevrolet

1979Camaro Z28E 201 
1970El Camino SS 454D 302 
1969Camaro Z28D 303 
1969Camaro SS CoupeD 305Unicorn
1966Nova SSD 307American Muscle Car Pack
1969Nova SS 396D 322March Pirelli Car Pack
1970Chevelle SS-454D 312 
1970Camaro Z28D 322 
1967Chevelle SS-396D 329December IGN Pack
1990Camaro IROC-ZD 341 
2002Camaro 35th Anniversary SSC 416 

 

Dodge

1969Charger R/TD 306 
1970Challenger R/TC 352 
1969Charger Daytona HEMIC 366 
1970Coronet Super BeeC 377American Muscle Car Pack
1967Coronet W023C 377American Muscle Car Pack
1968Dart HEMI Super StockC 396American Muscle Car Pack

 

Ford

1978Mustang King CobraF 174 
1965Mustang GT CoupeD 285Ship Pack
1973XB Falcon GTD 293 
1970Mustang Boss 429D 321 
1971Mustang Mach 1D 330 
1993SVT Cobra RD 346 
1964Fairlane ThunderboltC 394American Muscle Car Pack
1995Mustang Cobra RC 412February American Le Mans Series Pack
2005 Ford Mustang GTC372 
2000Mustang Cobra R

 

Note that the Ford RS500 'MIGHT' be allowed, and this depends on if I can come up with something that helps to make it more identifiable as a Merkur XR4TI which WAS available in the U.S.

 

Mercury

1970 Cougar Eliminator

 

Oldsmobile

1969Hurst/Olds 442D 314 

 

 

Plymouth

 

1968Barracuda Formula-SD 283 
1971GTX 426 HEMID 338American Muscle Car Pack
1971Cuda 426 HEMI

 

 

Pontiac

1977Firebird Trans AmE 222 
1987Firebird Trans Am GTAD 288 
1965GTOD 297American Muscle Car Pack
1973Firebird Trans Am SD-455D 305 
1968FirebirdD 312American Muscle Car Pack
1969GTO JudgeD 314 
1969Firebird Trans AmD 317 
2002Firebird Trans Am Ram AirC 399 
2006Pontiac GTOB440 

 

 

Saleen

2000S281B 447

 

 

Shelby

1968GT-500KRD 320 
1969GT500 428CJ

 

 

 

 

I don't think I missed anything here but if you have a specific car in mind that seems to fit in with these other cars let me know.

 

2006 Pontiac GTO is now legal!!

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 10:31
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I'm going to save and update this post with PAINT requirements. This will be where I post what is required as their will be a few things.

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  • Four Official Nasa Racing stickers are required. One in front, one in back and one on each side. (If drivebye has these we can use those otherwise I will make them and post them on my storefront and gift them to whoever asks).
  • Your last Name, or first initial and last name OR gamertag is required on the hood near the drivers side corner of the windshield. (IRL this is actually posted on the windshield itself but we obviously can't do that)
  • The text "American Iron" is required on the roof right above the windshield. Again this is something that is supposed to go on the windshield but we can't paint glass in Forza. This is supposed to be at least 2.5" in height so keep that in mind.
  • Car Number must be displayed on each side of the car. Numbers must be at least 10" tall so keep that in mind when "scaling" things. Car class (which is AIX) must be at least 3" tall (NO NUMBER PLATES FOR THIS ONE!)
  • A battery master cut off switch is required and it to be placed on the rear of the car. This is also accompanied with a red arrow with the word OFF. The switch is already on my storefront.
  • Front and rear "Tow Eyes" are required. These should be simple to make, there are tons on the storefront, and I'll make ne up and post it on my storefront.
  • At least two "hood pins" are required. These are also on my storefront, OR buy some that are much nicer than mine from a random seller on the storefront
  • DOT race tire contingency decals are not required but recommended. Contingency decals will earn race winners bonus prizes.These I know for sure will include Hoosier, Goodyear, BFGoodrich, Kumho, Hankook, Toyo, Dunlop, Yokohama, and Michelin. (The fastest cars IRL are running Hoosier, or the new BFGoodrich.                                             
  • Hawk Performance Brake Pads logo is not required but recommended as this is a contingency decal. Contingency decals will earn race winners bonus prizes.

I will be keeping track of points and handicaps for this series. I'm getting low on credits so I'm going to have to be creative in coming up with prizes.

 

 

ALSO, since this is an open build series we will address cars that become over/underdogs with PI restrictions or allowances on the fly. How that will work is that if you have a complaint about the car you are using send me the tune/build you are using, I'll test it myself and have a 2 other guys test it and compare to other AIX cars and then make a change based on that.

 

If I get no requests/complaints but I see a car that isn't fast enough or is too fast I will REQUIRE the car make a change. Even if it is too slow.

 

 

 

There are a TON of cars available so if you want to have others give feedback on the car of your choice I'll test whatever you build. I'm not very fast but I have an idea of what I run vs what others run on certain tracks and would be able to give an idea how that car stacks up against others.

Sat, 08/24/2013 - 18:25
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TRACK SCHEDULE AND RULES

 

7/18 Road Atlanta

7/25 Infineon Long

8/01 Road America

8/08 Maple Valley

8/15 Sebring

8/29 Laguna Seca

9/05 Indianapolis GP

9/12 Sunset Peninsula full

9/19 Sedona Club

 

READ THIS:

Races will be single 20-ish lap races with a required pitstop after the midway point. Damage is not on, tires will not wear, but a required pitstop does add a small element of strategy to the race.

 

 

 

Rules.

  • Pick a single car and stick with it. This is just like every other series that is run here.
  • Don't be a dick
  • Cautions in the first 3 laps only. When you cause an accident you do not get your spot back. If you did not cause the accident you DO get your spot back.
  • When under caution the leader will slow until everyone gets caught up. Once everyone is caught up there will be a countdown of 3,2,1. ON ONE we will go. Not after, but ON one.
  • There will be passing allowed IMMEDIATELY after the restart. GET A GOOD RE-START!
  • THERE WILL BE QUALIFYING. THIS IS NOT TO DICTATE STARTING POSITION. STARTS WILL BE SET TO RANDOM. HOWEVER ONE LAST "QUALIFIER" BEFORE THE RACE BEGINS WILL TAKE PLACE.....This qualifier will be run under GHOSTED conditions and the driver with the fastest lap will be awarded 4 additional bonus points.
  • Points will be deducted for on-track incidents based on driver complaints. The first incident will not be a penalty, but 2nd and subsequent complaints will be point reductions. Send ANY complaints ALONG with a re-play and I'll look at it.
  • An overtaking driver who has his front tire AT the driver of the car he is overtaking at the turn in point HAS the inside line. HOWEVER that driver is expected to stay on the inside 1/2 of the track. If the passing driver initiates contact because they used more than their 1/2 of the track they are at fault.
  • If the overtaking driver has his front tire at the driver of the car he is overtaking at the turn in point, AND gives the outer 1/2 of the track to the car he is overtaking and contact occurs the car being overtaken is at fault.
  • The passing rules above are from the NASA CCR.

 

Points Structure.

1st=100 pts

2nd=90pts

3rd=85pts

4th=80

5th=75

6th=70

7th=69

8th=68

9th=67

and so on.

DO NOT FORGET THE 4 BONUS POINTS FOR THE FASTEST QUALIFYING LAP.

Your TWO lowest points scoring races will drop.

In the event of a tie for points champion the winner of the most "head to head" battles wins. Meaning when driver A and driver B are both in the race and driver A finishes ahead of driver B more often then Driver A wins.

If this isn't enough to determine the tie breaker it will revert to number of 1st, 2nd, 3rd place finishes.

 

 

Handicaps. (unlike the BMW series I'll actually keep track properly)

Handicaps as follows.

1-3 place finishers will receive a 5% handicap.

Maximum handicap is 10%

Last 3 finishers LOSE 5%

If you miss a week your handicap still carries over from the last race you ran.

 

 

 

Thu, 08/01/2013 - 14:08
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PRIZES

 

Prizes  will be based on contingency awards on a race by race basis. Also at stake are bragging rights and some sort of physical prize. (engraved mug, plaque or something similar)

Contingency prizes are based on your finishing position, and the placement of required decals. A manufacturer decal is required on both sides of the vehicle as well as the front and back. Logos must be large enough to be clearly visible in a replay.

DOT Tire contingencies...Tire manufacturer list includes, Hoosier, Goodyear, BFGoodrich, Kumho, Hankook, Toyo, Dunlop, Yokohama, and Michelin

Prizes will vary based on the tire manufacturer you choose.

Hoosier-500,000 credits for a 1st place finish

BF Goodrich 450,000 credits for a 1st place finish

Toyo 400,000 credits for a 1st place finish

Goodyear 300,000 credits for a 1st place finish

Kumho 250,000 credits for a 1st place finish

Hankook, Yokohama, and Michelin prizes include car feedback based on the current weeks track. This isn't something that many will take advantage of, but I know I would if I were in that position.

 

Hawk Brake Pad contingency prizes include an assortment of vinyls, and setup feedback.

 

Agent 47 contingency prizes include 200,000 credits for 1st place finish, and car setup feedback for the current upcoming race. The Catch in this case is that you must be driving either a Mustang, or Saleen to be eligible. There are TWO different decals and both must be displayed. The text logo on the front and back, and the main logo on either the sides, or on the hood. These must be clearly visible in a replay.  I have these logo's, and can gift them over just send me a message. T

Stranoparts.com contingency prizes include 200,000 credits for a 1st place finish and car setup feedback for the current upcoming race. Logo is super simple as it is simply the lowercase basic text for the entire thing. This must be displayed on front/back and sides, and clearly visible in a replay. It is acceptable to have it on just the sides if it is rather large. In this case the catch is that you must be driving a Chevrolet.

MOPAR forums.com contingency prizes include 200,000 credits for a 1st place finish and car setup feedback for the current upcoming race. This is a decal on my storefront and I can gift it. I think Fitzy is the only one racing a Mopar and I gifted him the logo. Logo must be displayed on front/back and sides and clearly visible in a replay. Obviously in this case you would need to drive a Mopar.

Pontiac racers will be automatically paid contingency for week 2 if they win since I have not provided a suitable contingy logo for them yet. But I will have it sent for the next race.

 

If there is a small scale/grassroots style supplier of race parts for the car you choose that isn't a Ford or Chevrolet let me know and we can work on adding it as a contingency prize opportunity for those in the Buick/Pontiac and Mopar selections.

 

 

I have all of the Tire manufacturer logos, Agent 47 logo's, and stranoparts.com logo as well as the HAWK logo so message me if you need them.

I also have Grassroots Motorsports logos as well. (see below)

 

 

And just for fun if interested..........Grassroots Motorsports is a Florida based Magazine that covers all forms of grassroots racing from the 24hrs of Lemons to SCCA SOLO2/Pro Solo autocross, to SCCA Club racing, Nasa club and "PRO" racing and even Continental Tire series on down, and everything in between.

Cars that have the Grassroots Motorsports Logo in place during various events throughout the country are randomly selected and that photo is placed in the magazine somewhere.

So anyone in this series with a Grassroots Motorsports logo on both sides of the car will be eligible for a "feature" on this site and Forza.net. Basically a photo, gamertag, and some car info will be posted. I think it sounds like fun, but not everyone gets into the little "extras".

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BTW I'm counting on Oldschool to participate since the BMW's were for "sissies and yuppies"

Same goes for Gunny too.

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BMWENTHUSIAST wrote:

BTW I'm counting on Oldschool to participate since the BMW's were for "sissies and yuppies"

Same goes for Gunny too.

Oldschool is at work @ 6:30am EST soooo he likes to go to bed around 10pm EST. If you can accomodate that, I'm game...

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Oldschool 2o4f wrote:

BMWENTHUSIAST wrote:

BTW I'm counting on Oldschool to participate since the BMW's were for "sissies and yuppies"

Same goes for Gunny too.

Oldschool is at work @ 6:30am EST soooo he likes to go to bed around 10pm EST. If you can accomodate that, I'm game...

 

 

I could. We can always start around 8:30 est. The later start was for guys who couldn't make it home in time but since they didn't race the BMW series anyhow we might as well start earlier.

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BMWENTHUSIAST wrote:

BTW I'm counting on Oldschool to participate since the BMW's were for "sissies and yuppies"

Same goes for Gunny too.

My names bigger Gunny, just sayin'...

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BMWENTHUSIAST wrote:

BTW I'm counting on Oldschool to participate since the BMW's were for "sissies and yuppies"

Same goes for Gunny too.

Count me out.

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Perhaps you should clarify your rules. you mention sedans in your OP. Sedan=4 doors. Yet, in a later post you mention considering several 2 door "coupe" cars. so which is it going to be sedans, coupes, or both?

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jcotter13 wrote:

Perhaps you should clarify your rules. you mention sedans in your OP. Sedan=4 doors. Yet, in a later post you mention considering several 2 door "coupe" cars. so which is it going to be sedans, coupes, or both?

 

"Sedan" is the NASA wording in real life. They are simply calling cars with a roof sedans as they allow cars that are often considered coups in AIX. This is also meant to exclude american sports car like the Vette and Viper

 

So basically ANY 1960 or newer car that was made in the US is eligible.

 

That doesn't include US manufacturer cars that were not available in the us. For example Ford RS500

 

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Is this a local track kind of series? Looks like a catch all on the car list of immense proportions. Is AMC out, I saw 1960 and up? Also, all versions of Chrysler are in?  How about Mercury/Lincoln etc?

Just asking questions at this point.

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 07:58
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I'll edit the above later today and just take out the info taken from the AIX rulebook.

 

 

Yes ANY 1960 and up US built/available car is eligible. I really don't want to see boats on the track though so the Lincoln and the Impalas are NOT eligible.

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And yes the car list will be huge that is why I just don't see how it would be possible to restrict the build.

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 08:07
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Sounds like Oldschools going racing!

So, you want sponsors like, Joe's Pizza Shack, Whitey's Used Cars, etc?

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 08:14
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Color me intrigued. I'm thinking the 2013 Boss 302 Stang. Is that legal?

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jcotter13 wrote:

Color me intrigued. I'm thinking the 2013 Boss 302 Stang. Is that legal?

 

No.....I added that up there somewhere. The 99 Cobra R, and 2002 Camaro are the newest cars allowed. The 2005 GT 'might' be available because I don't think it will be too fast (and AIX is starting to see those cars show up), but I really would hate to see everyone in the newest available car.

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 08:15
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I'll post some pictures of the AIX cars later today but most cars are sponsored by small shops or companies. For instance Griggs is a sponsor of a few Mustang's. Esslinger Engineering is a small Ford shop that specializes in 2.3L Turbo engine parts and I'll use them if I go w/the Mustang.

 

Basically find your car, then google "x car parts" on google and see what pops up. "Buick Grand National Parts" for example=Kirban Performance (3rd result under google)

Likely you WILL see small local non auto related business sponsors too I'm sure.

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Oh Ok. In that case, I'm thinking 2000 Stang probably. I've already got an excellent A600 build that can be easily upgraded to 630.

 

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 08:27
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I know drivebye is going with the foxbody Mustang.

 

I think I'm just going to commit to the 95 Mustang unless It is just a hot mess. I have one but never race it so I can't remember if it's any good or not.

 

 

Hopefully some guys pick the GM and Dodge/Chrysler stuff too

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 08:41
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So it's not quite as grass roots as i thought. Looks more like speedshop sponsorship?

Also to simplify, it looks like all hard tops with a back seat?

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 09:15
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Wow, called out by name?!?!?!  Im interested.  I will be looking at a lot of non ford cars so no worries there.  Its a lot of cars to choose from but Im prob going to end up with an odd ball car.  Its a part of my nature to build something different!!!

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iis there anything in game that shows wheelbase?

(remember I'm a painter!)

Also, without looking at anything yet, I'm interested in the 70 Camaro...( okay, maybe not...)

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  1. Most definitely a Chevy ! 69ss or the 70 camaro. Wait I love that 66 nova. Maybe a ford! Crap I like mopar too ... OMG gonna be great
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Stewies_head wrote:

  1. Most definitely a Chevy ! 69ss or the 70 camaro. Wait I love that 66 nova. Maybe a ford! Crap I like mopar too ... OMG gonna be great

^^^this LMAO  OLD SCHOOL SHIT!!!!

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Stewie, figure it out buddy and TELL ME what we're running!

I thinkI have an idea for a local sponsorship...

Stewie's Head Shop?

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