Xbox One full reversal on DRM, Trade Ins, Region Locks and Always on-line requirement.
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Wed, 06/19/2013 - 17:29
Xbox One full reversal on DRM, Trade Ins, Region Locks and Always on-line requirement.
So this happened....
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update
Major points:
- An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.
- Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360.
The sad part is how sharing now has to suffer disk based checks require. The online sharing was such a great advancement in terms of how content is shared. I guess consumers just werent ready for it. I would have much rather gone with their new model. Oh well.
Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.
Nice step backwards.
Not happy but at least it will make a lot of people STFU now
I can't help but read into this line...Like - don't worry grandpa and grandma...nothing will change. No new tricks to learn. No progress.
"it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360"
Yep, really sad that we had to take steps back to calm the masses. I hate the physical disc model and losing out on their great plan for digital sharing really sucks...
I guess it could be said that Sony held back gaming.
Wait, what? Didn't you blame the opposers first? And now it is Sony? I thought that as muslim it would never come to this, but please, can I have some bacon now?
MS actually did this to themselves, not Sony. Nintendo has no problem being different than everyone else, and I don't see you blaming them for holding back gaming.
I am surprised that they caved in to the masses. I for one didn't have too many problems with the new changes.
However I did not like the 24 hr check. Doesn't affect me but I did't agree with it. I also understand wanting to move into the future, ie; all digital and all. But some of the arguments just didn't fly. Especially the cheaper game prices. There's no way that was happening. Everybody has just become accustomed to the pricing. The one thing I don't like about the about face is "playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray." I was looking forward to being able to swap between games easily and quickly once the game was installed on the HDD. The only way that happens now is if I download it. Which I guess is okay. Just means no more trips to Gamestop.
Just my 2 cents.
Doodi, you can soon do all those awesome things on Steam without shelling out $500 for a new 360 that can't play it's old games. The beta is very interesting.
Totally agree and I've been PC only gaming for the past 4 years. Still would love to watch the Console market evolve as well though. No point rooting for one platform to win. I just like it when technology moves forward.
Yes, but progress should not come kicking your door in and imposing it's will on you without listening to reason. I still believe that many things in the Xbone pre-E3 didn't cancel out against what would've been gained, regardless of submarine personell and people in rural America.
On the other hand, I also believe that Microsoft should've stayed the course. They've lost a lot of credibility, but now they've lost even more. It will be years before they can try again. Nothing is as transient as the public opinion on the internet and eventually people would've bought a Xbone anyway... This reversal will be remembered longer than DRM-Gate. I for one certainly will be very stand offish when it comes to microsoft from now on...
I'm disappointed in this as well, the sharing thing was sounding pretty nice. I feel bad for Microsoft because no matter what they do, people will inevitably bitch about something. You can see examples of that with every single game that gets released these days. I'll be interested to see how many people, who were so adamantly against the Xbox because of the DRM thing, will change their current attitude towards MS. I'm guessing not many, we'll probably just see them move on to the next most popular complaint.
Bummer. I think they'll still implement the ideas for the future they had, albiet slower.
No family sharing? That part was cool. All gone now
Wonder if it will be possible to do an "opt in" for all digital. Doubt it, but would be cool if they could pull that off.
Now for a far more horrifying revelation from me - I don't like bacon and do not eat it.
That's one way to do it, Kurupt, but here's a way I find especially devious:
On a slightly more serious note here is some critical information that was just discussed on these forums, and is now changed
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live?xr=shellnav
You'll notice they removed all mention of every person on an Xbox One console getting the benifits of the owners Gold membership. It was chopped out of the chart, and the text deleted too.
This one works on an office level.
I so feel this way,
"On the other hand, I also believe that Microsoft should've stayed the course. They've lost a lot of credibility, but now they've lost even more. It will be years before they can try again. Nothing is as transient as the public opinion on the internet and eventually people would've bought a Xbone anyway... This reversal will be remembered longer than DRM-Gate. I for one certainly will be very stand offish when it comes to microsoft from now on..."
So much so that I may not buy it.
A couple things have come to mind on this and wonder what you guys think. 1. They couldn't actually get the process to work quite right and that is why there was no full release of details regarding it all? So they went back to the proven system. 2. Pressure from publishers? The reason I wonder about this is the fact of the sshared gaming plan. It was believed that at least 2 people, the owner and a friend, could of both played the same game at the same time. Now...for all the married folks that game together for example...that seems like it would save a crap load of money with the need to no longer buy 2 copies of games...thus lowering sales? I don't know if either of these theories holds water, but I think they could have some merit.
A wise man once said "by the time it's all said and done, both companies (Microsoft and Sony) will be providing similar services, because gamers generally want the same things regardless of which console they play on." E3 was not the deciding factor in the console wars, and if the 10 friends thing had been given a bit more time to catch on, Sony would have altered their service to match: it wasn't necessarily a bad idea. BTW...that wise man was ME! Everyone who has contributed to this forum now owes me twenty dollars, pay up suckers!
I was excited about the sharing thing. :(
http://www.dorkly.com/article/52521/don-mattricks-first-draft-of-the-xbo...
posting this everywhere because it's the truth.
It's not the truth at all. Nothing Microsoft was trying to do was good for anyone but Microsoft. The developers would have lost out big time with the sharing plan and obviously many more people out there want ownership of their property. It's sad that such a clear case of the little guy standing up and voting with his wallet is being downplayed as bitching and being afraid of change.
cry moar