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Mon, 06/10/2013 - 08:50
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I don't know where else to shove this tidbit of information, so here it goes

SuperDAE's "insurance" file is now uploaded and available to download.  I haven't downloaded it personally, because it is one single file of type .aes256, and clocks in at 1.7 TB in size.

I'm very interested in seeing exactly what damaging information it contains.

 

Also, does someone (not me) want to make a thread to discuss specifically the games being unveiled?

 

Further tidbit - Spike TV is the official broadcast channel of E3, and Gametrailers is part of them.  Gametrailers will have an exclusive Xbox One game announced during their 10 minutes before Microsofts show pre-show.  Then after Microsofts conference, gametrailers post-show gets another Xbox One exclusive announced during it.  These aren't going to be announced during the conference.

So my recommendation to those watching live is to go through Gametrailers website, or the app on Xbox 360.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 11:22
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Xbox One launches this November - Kinect Sports Rivals is a launch title.

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Just as predicted, Xbone answers no questions about the bevvy of bullshit with DRM etc , flashes a few CGI game trailers and the lemmings line up to preorder the thing. This is exactly why Microsoft knew they would get away with it. 

Two free arcade games a month that wont transfer over to the new box and everyone's sucking off the Xbone. I am ashamed to be called a gamer today. 

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Azuredreams wrote:

Just as predicted, Xbone answers no questions about the bevvy of bullshit with DRM etc , flashes a few CGI game trailers and the lemmings line up to preorder the thing. This is exactly why Microsoft knew they would get away with it. 

Two free arcade games a month that wont transfer over to the new box and everyone's sucking off the Xbone. I am ashamed to be called a gamer today. 

That's two games a month (approx 11 total) I'll have the convenience of using until I dump my 360. Once a complete move to the XB1 is reasonable, I'll never play them again. It's a win for me.

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Just as predicted, Xbone answers no questions about the bevvy of bullshit with DRM etc , flashes a few CGI game trailers and the lemmings line up to preorder the thing. This is exactly why Microsoft knew they would get away with it. 

Not sure it was predicted.  There's a good chance they wanted to avoid all of it until they saw Sony's announcements. 

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How many times has Live been down for 24h in the past 8 years? Once maybe?  They have outages of a couple hours every so often, maybe a couple times a year but a full day outage that would disable ONE i think that's happened once maybe in the 360's lifespan.

 

Though I am a little concerned about the added server complexity, these devs have a hard enough time making shit work launch week using their own servers, never mind now coordinating Microsoft cloud processing.

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It's about customers losing ownership of the products they buy. In a nutshell.

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Gatsu wrote:

It's about customers losing ownership of the products they buy. In a nutshell.

That's fine by me. When it comes to games, I'd rather just licence them for the term of the console and then let it go down with the ship. All it does is clutter up my house.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 20:09 (Reply to #99)
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Gatsu wrote:

It's about customers losing ownership of the products they buy. In a nutshell.

That's fine by me. When it comes to games, I'd rather just licence them for the term of the console and then let it go down with the ship. All it does is clutter up my house.

 

Except I enjoy breaking out my NES, Dreamcast, N64, etc to play them once in a while.  People like you allow the corporations to seize ownership of products WE purchase for your convenience of de-cluttering your house.  When you purchase the next-gen consoles, trade in/sell/throw away your old consoles and games if they are such an inconvenience.  

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Gatsu wrote:

It's about customers losing ownership of the products they buy. In a nutshell.

That's fine by me. When it comes to games, I'd rather just licence them for the term of the console and then let it go down with the ship. All it does is clutter up my house.

 

Except I enjoy breaking out my NES, Dreamcast, N64, etc to play them once in a while.  People like you allow the corporations to seize ownership of products WE purchase for your convenience of de-cluttering your house.  When you purchase the next-gen consoles, trade in/sell/throw away your old consoles and games if they are such an inconvenience.  

It's about obsolescent technology and moving on. I had a lot (not all) of the consoles from the very first one and I kept all of them until the weight of ownership and the lack of use compelled me to shed the weight. Some made in into the used market, some given away and some simply junked in their pristine yet useless state.

I bear no ill will against anyone who wants to horde old tech but there is no future in it for me. My days ahead number less than my days gone by, ownership of obsolete software and gaming systems offers no consolation. It is simply weight that you too will one day have to shed. It's just common sense. Nothing lasts forever. I'm a hard Union supporter and at times struggled to make ends meet like many of you are right now. I've spent scarce resources so my children could have the latest gaming systems when the time was right. I doubt many truly rich people hang around gaming forums. I'm just a retired guy in a simple house and have a few extra bucks for small toys.

There is no magic in all of this. Only common sense. Whether you own or licence software and gaming systems, you will see the day you must move on. Why else did you take up the hobby in the first place if not to move on to bigger and better things? Otherwise, why don't we all stop these tech cycles and go back to board games forever? It's the only way you can beat the corporations. I can't see it happening.

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DEEP_NNN wrote:

OMGaLaserPewPew wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

Gatsu wrote:

It's about customers losing ownership of the products they buy. In a nutshell.

That's fine by me. When it comes to games, I'd rather just licence them for the term of the console and then let it go down with the ship. All it does is clutter up my house.

 

Except I enjoy breaking out my NES, Dreamcast, N64, etc to play them once in a while.  People like you allow the corporations to seize ownership of products WE purchase for your convenience of de-cluttering your house.  When you purchase the next-gen consoles, trade in/sell/throw away your old consoles and games if they are such an inconvenience.  

It's about obsolescent technology and moving on. I had a lot (not all) of the consoles from the very first one and I kept all of them until the weight of ownership and the lack of use compelled me to shed the weight. Some made in into the used market, some given away and some simply junked in their pristine yet useless state.

I bear no ill will against anyone who wants to horde old tech but there is no future in it for me. My days ahead number less than my days gone by, ownership of obsolete software and gaming systems offers no consolation. It is simply weight that you too will one day have to shed. It's just common sense. Nothing lasts forever. I'm a hard Union supporter and at times struggled to make ends meet like many of you are right now. I've spent scarce resources so my children could have the latest gaming systems when the time was right. I doubt many truly rich people hang around gaming forums. I'm just a retired guy in a simple house and have a few extra bucks for small toys.

There is no magic in all of this. Only common sense. Whether you own or licence software and gaming systems, you will see the day you must move on. Why else did you take up the hobby in the first place if not to move on to bigger and better things? Otherwise, why don't we all stop these tech cycles and go back to board games forever? It's the only way you can beat the corporations. I can't see it happening.

 

I never said anything about staying in the 16-bit era and not advancing technologically, simply that I like to bring out my old systems to play once in a while.  My post is about losing control of the right to own and play any games and systems you purchase.  Pawning off the problems of corporations taking control to the next generation is exactly why we have many of the real world problems we are facing today.  'Don't worry, I'll be dead before the issues get out of hand.  I have faith that my children and their children can take care of it.'  129

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OMGaLaserPewPew wrote:
  Pawning off the problems of corporations taking control to the next generation is exactly why we have many of the real world problems we are facing today.  'Don't worry, I'll be dead before the issues get out of hand.  I have faith that my children and their children can take care of it.'  129

Just keep banging that head of yours and blaming other people for the pit you helped dig.

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OMGaLaserPewPew wrote:
  Pawning off the problems of corporations taking control to the next generation is exactly why we have many of the real world problems we are facing today.  'Don't worry, I'll be dead before the issues get out of hand.  I have faith that my children and their children can take care of it.'  129

Just keep banging that head of yours and blaming other people for the pit you helped dig.

 

And what pit is that?  You're retired.  I'm only a few years older than this site's required age.  My fault for making all the problems in the world over the few years I've lived.  135

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OMGaLaserPewPew wrote:

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OMGaLaserPewPew wrote:
  Pawning off the problems of corporations taking control to the next generation is exactly why we have many of the real world problems we are facing today.  'Don't worry, I'll be dead before the issues get out of hand.  I have faith that my children and their children can take care of it.'  129

Just keep banging that head of yours and blaming other people for the pit you helped dig.

 

And what pit is that?  You're retired.  I'm only a few years older than this site's required age.  My fault for making all the problems in the world over the few years I've lived.  135

You've been buying all of the latest tech too, I presume. This stuff has mostly only been around in your lifetime. I just happened to be older when it started. We are not talking about world problems. Just gaming tech. You may have already influenced the industry more than I have.

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DEEP_NNN wrote:

OMGaLaserPewPew wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

OMGaLaserPewPew wrote:
  Pawning off the problems of corporations taking control to the next generation is exactly why we have many of the real world problems we are facing today.  'Don't worry, I'll be dead before the issues get out of hand.  I have faith that my children and their children can take care of it.'  129

Just keep banging that head of yours and blaming other people for the pit you helped dig.

 

And what pit is that?  You're retired.  I'm only a few years older than this site's required age.  My fault for making all the problems in the world over the few years I've lived.  135

You've been buying all of the latest tech too, I presume. This stuff has mostly only been around in your lifetime. I just happened to be older when it started. We are not talking about world problems. Just gaming tech. You may have already influenced the industry more than I have.

 

I do my part by not purchasing any tech that is restrictive in their content.

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OMGaLaserPewPew wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

OMGaLaserPewPew wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

OMGaLaserPewPew wrote:
  Pawning off the problems of corporations taking control to the next generation is exactly why we have many of the real world problems we are facing today.  'Don't worry, I'll be dead before the issues get out of hand.  I have faith that my children and their children can take care of it.'  129

Just keep banging that head of yours and blaming other people for the pit you helped dig.

 

And what pit is that?  You're retired.  I'm only a few years older than this site's required age.  My fault for making all the problems in the world over the few years I've lived.  135

You've been buying all of the latest tech too, I presume. This stuff has mostly only been around in your lifetime. I just happened to be older when it started. We are not talking about world problems. Just gaming tech. You may have already influenced the industry more than I have.

 

I do my part by not purchasing any tech that is restrictive in their content.

I have done my part by paying for all my products and not distributing illegal copies. Okay lets talk penis sizes now.

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DEEP_NNN wrote:

 

I have done my part by paying for all my products and not distributing illegal copies. Okay lets talk penis sizes now.

 

Yet you'll gladly purchase xbone?  Hmm...

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OMGaLaserPewPew wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

OMGaLaserPewPew wrote:

DEEP_NNN wrote:

OMGaLaserPewPew wrote:
  Pawning off the problems of corporations taking control to the next generation is exactly why we have many of the real world problems we are facing today.  'Don't worry, I'll be dead before the issues get out of hand.  I have faith that my children and their children can take care of it.'  129

Just keep banging that head of yours and blaming other people for the pit you helped dig.

 

And what pit is that?  You're retired.  I'm only a few years older than this site's required age.  My fault for making all the problems in the world over the few years I've lived.  135

You've been buying all of the latest tech too, I presume. This stuff has mostly only been around in your lifetime. I just happened to be older when it started. We are not talking about world problems. Just gaming tech. You may have already influenced the industry more than I have.

 

I do my part by not purchasing any tech that is restrictive in their content.

 

Just out of curiousity, do you own a smartphone?

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Also, they may have something similar for Xbox One as well rather than a limited time deal only.

I'm still wondering how I missed Halo 3 being an Arcade game.  News to me.

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The apathy is not suprising to me. Especially coming from those with high levels of disposable income. I mean Apple has made trillions from well funded neck beards buying up every inane product they can come up with in their Chinese sweat shops. No one bats an eye when Apple says that you have to bring in your iphone to change the battery and that you can't upgrade the desktops yourself. It's the price for convenience and nice shiny things. The price that some are willing to pay. I'm not one of those people.

I'm not going to kneel down and swallow what Microsoft's shoveling, but that's ok because most will. Hence my opinion and opposition to the console is of no consequence. It won't harm their bottom line, and as such is all they care about. I honesty cannot even begin to say how disappointing it is to see gaming go down this road. This was once a hobby for the minority, and this is what happens when all you care about is the almighty dollar. I mean the sheer stupidity of the gaming community as a whole is laughably high. Microsoft played you all like fucking fiddles and you wiped the skeet from your lips and screamed give me more. 

A few free valueless games a month and you all come running like puppies with your tails wagging in the breeze. Like they had that planned before the world turned against them at the reveal. I mean do you people not recognize damage control when you see it?They still have not and will not answer ANY of the questions about the console from the DRM to the privacy issues etc that the gaming community tried to bring them to task on. Why? Because you've already voted YES by plunking down your money on preorders and thus threw all of your fellow gamers under the bus.  

The worst part is that no matter what's said or done, you sheeple will buy the shiny new piece of shit and fuck all the rest of us who see the big corporations taking the ownership of our software. You could care less about right and wrong, and simply want the shiny new toy.

In the end none of this will matter, as once this prescient is set, the PC market will be next. You've given Microsoft the green light and fucked over every gamer who is trying to stand up and say enough's enough. Guess as long as you get what you want that's all that matters. 

Enjoy bashing this post. It will be the last on this topic for me. I honesty have nothing left to say on the matter. 

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Lets be straight on one thing. You may think you own a game/music/movie, but you don't. You are leasing the ability to personally use the media. You no longer own the product and it has been that way for a long time.

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Lbsutke wrote:

Lets be straight on one thing. You may think you own a game/music/movie, but you don't. You are leasing the ability to personally use the media. You no longer own the product and it has been that way for a long time.

 

How exactly are they going to stop me from playing Super Mario Bros 3?  Goldeneye?  Stop me from listening to the music on my cd's?  Interesting...

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OMGaLaserPewPew wrote:

Lbsutke wrote:

Lets be straight on one thing. You may think you own a game/music/movie, but you don't. You are leasing the ability to personally use the media. You no longer own the product and it has been that way for a long time.

 

How exactly are they going to stop me from playing Super Mario Bros 3?  Goldeneye?  Stop me from listening to the music on my cd's?  Interesting...

 

Ah HA !!  The true purpose of the kinect and it's always on requirement !!  Mark my words MS, you'll never take my Puss in Boots dvd !  NEVER !!

 

 

 

. . . .or my All American Girls in Heat Pt V 

 

 

. . .  . . . . thru IX

 

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OMGaLaserPewPew wrote:

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Lets be straight on one thing. You may think you own a game/music/movie, but you don't. You are leasing the ability to personally use the media. You no longer own the product and it has been that way for a long time.

 

How exactly are they going to stop me from playing Super Mario Bros 3?  Goldeneye?  Stop me from listening to the music on my cd's?  Interesting...

 

Just because you can does not make my statement any less true. 

This is far from the first or last time a creator of content will have their product killed off due to the end of life cycle for that product.

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Lbsutke wrote:

OMGaLaserPewPew wrote:

Lbsutke wrote:

Lets be straight on one thing. You may think you own a game/music/movie, but you don't. You are leasing the ability to personally use the media. You no longer own the product and it has been that way for a long time.

 

How exactly are they going to stop me from playing Super Mario Bros 3?  Goldeneye?  Stop me from listening to the music on my cd's?  Interesting...

 

Just because you can does not make my statement any less true. 

This is far from the first or last time a creator of content will have their product killed off due to the end of life cycle for that product.

 

Well, until Britney Spears comes to my house and destroys all "her" cds, and Shigeru Miyamoto takes a shotgun to "his" Super Mario Bros cartridge, I'll continue to own said items and use whenever I please.

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True, just because something is no longer officially allowed doesn't mean you are incapable of doing it.  That's the funny thing about contracts, right?

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In terms of who is fucking who...Those who pirate games are really the ones doing the fucking here. Not people that go out and spend their money and pay the tax imposed by those who steal. If people would just pay for shit...things like DRM wouldn't exist. 

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TDrag27 wrote:

In terms of who is fucking who...Those who pirate games are really the ones doing the fucking here. Not people that go out and spend their money and pay the tax imposed by those who steal. If people would just pay for shit...things like DRM wouldn't exist. 

Agreed.  Pirates make things worse on legit customers.

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In terms of who is fucking who...Those who pirate games are really the ones doing the fucking here. Not people that go out and spend their money and pay the tax imposed by those who steal. If people would just pay for shit...things like DRM wouldn't exist. 

The impact of piracy on any media is blown out of proportion. Sale-records for many games continue to be broken even if cracking-crews provide ISOs with anti-DRM wrap-arounds and whatnot on release-day within two hours.

CD-Projekt, the studio behind The Witcher franchise, are even squarely against DRM of any kind and offer game-assets up for grabs so modders can inject textures and what not straight into to other games. Their stance on the market is that if you provide a game that's worth it, it will sell anyway. And they're proven to be right. The Witcher franchise sells like hotcakes and CD-Projekt is healthy and strong. That means that the amount of people who bought a game that was thrown smack-dab in the middle of a pirate-port outnumber the boogeymen.

What you should be angry about is that the industry is punishing legit people like you and me. Blaming piracy is the easy way out, because they're far from the industry killing terrorists they're made out to be. The majority of gamers are legits and they're getting with the stick because of a minority, that is on the scale of the industry alone, fringe.

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TDrag27 wrote:

In terms of who is fucking who...Those who pirate games are really the ones doing the fucking here. Not people that go out and spend their money and pay the tax imposed by those who steal. If people would just pay for shit...things like DRM wouldn't exist. 

The impact of piracy on any media is blown out of proportion. Sale-records for many games continue to be broken even if cracking-crews provide ISOs with anti-DRM wrap-arounds and whatnot on release-day within two hours.

CD-Projekt, the studio behind The Witcher franchise, are even squarely against DRM of any kind and offer game-assets up for grabs so modders can inject textures and what not straight into to other games. Their stance on the market is that if you provide a game that's worth it, it will sell anyway. And they're proven to be right. The Witcher franchise sells like hotcakes and CD-Projekt is healthy and strong. That means that the amount of people who bought a game that was thrown smack-dab in the middle of a pirate-port outnumber the boogeymen.

What you should be angry about is that the industry is punishing legit people like you and me. Blaming piracy is the easy way out, because they're far from the industry killing terrorists they're made out to be. The majority of gamers are legits and they're getting with the stick because of a minority, that is on the scale of the industry alone, fringe.

  Amen brotha.  If they want to stop piracy they should do it in a way that won't alienate ANY of their loyal fans.

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